An overview of this page is in the homepage for Views of Creation.
Sections in this page:
Searching for Truth in the Two Books of God
Linking The Gospel with a Young Earth
Interpreting Genesis 1 & The Bible
Animal Death before Human Sin
Adam & Eve in Historical Context
Noah's Flood — Was it local or global?
Appearance of Old Age in a Young Creation?
Searching
for Truth in the Two Books of God
When we ask five important questions about creation (who,
what, when, how, why) we can use information from two sources provided for us
by
God: the
Word of God (in the Bible) and the Works of God (in
nature).
What is the best way to learn from these two revelations,
and find harmony in what we learn? Is harmony impossible
because there
is inherent
conflict
between the information we see in scripture and nature? Can science provide
reliable information about the history of nature? These questions, and
others, are explored in SEARCHING
FOR TRUTH IN THE TWO BOOKS OF GOD and in the rest of this page.
We should
use both of God's informative revelations, in scripture and nature, so
usually the reasons for adopting a particular view are both theological (the
focus in
THIS PAGE)
and scientific (the focus
in AGE OF THE EARTH — SCIENTIFIC
EVIDENCE).
Is it wise to link The
Gospel with a Young Earth?
Is a young earth an essential foundation
for Christianity, because the Bible clearly states that the earth is young? Or
should we avoid this claim because it is theologically questionable (if
there are reasons to question the Biblical support for young-earth claims)
or is
scientifically questionable (due to the strong evidence-and-logic supporting
old-earth theories) and because a claim that "if
the Bible is true, the earth is young" is logically equivalent to declaring
that "if
the earth is not young, the Bible is not true"? Is it wise, for
faith and evangelism, to imply that a young-earth view is necessary for Bible-based
theology?
When we examine the certainty and importance of a young earth by asking, "Is this view taught with certainty in the Bible, and is it theologically important?", should we conclude that a young earth is an essential doctrine for Christians?
• Henry Morris, the pioneer of modern young-earth creationism, defined
people in terms of two worldviews: "The
basic conflict of the ages is between the two world views of evolutionism versus
creationism.
... The road of compromise [defined to include all Christian
old-earth views], however attractive it seems, is a one-way street, ending
in a precipice and
then the
awful void of ‘rational religion,’ or atheism." (source,
1988)
• Should
a church take a stand on creation? by John Morris, the son of Henry and
current president of the Institute for Creation Research, explains why "beliefs
in creation and a young earth are integral parts of Christianity" so
young-earth belief "should be a requirement for
Christian leadership! No
church should sanction a pastor, Sunday school teacher, deacon, elder, or Bible-study
leader who knowledgeably and purposefully errs on this crucial doctrine." (3 k)
• A
Young Earth — it's not the issue! by Ken Ham, founder of Answers
in Genesis, explains that "AiG's main thrust is
NOT ‘young Earth’ as such; our emphasis is on Biblical authority. Believing
in a relatively ‘young Earth’ (i.e., only a few thousands of
years old, which we accept) is a consequence of accepting the authority
of the Word of God as an infallible revelation from our omniscient Creator." (emphasis
in original) (7 k)
• Later in this page, regarding death before sin, John
Morris and Ken Ham declare that if the earth is old, "the
Christian faith is all in vain"
and "the whole
message of the Gospel falls apart." (*)
TWO WORLDVIEWS — YOUNG EARTH (biblical)
and OLD EARTH (unbiblical) — ?
According to Henry Morris, quoted above, there are only
two basic worldviews: creationism
(believing the earth is young) and evolutionism (believing the earth is old). The
dividing line is belief about age. A
young-earth view, based on the Bible, is biblical creationism; all
old-earth views — even those of Christians whose beliefs in every
way are based on the Bible — are unbiblical evolution.
John Morris has adopted this "two views" rigidity,
as you can see in his "requirement for Christian
leadership" where
he views the best old-earth Christian as only a semi-Christian. Similarly,
Ken Ham declares that there are only Two Histories
of Death (young-earth
Christian and atheistic) by ignoring old-earth Christian. Unfortunately,
young-earth creationists often declare that Christian old-earth creationists
have surrendered to anti-Christian
pressures. But,
as explained in THE TWO BOOKS OF
GOD, "proponents of both views [young earth and
old earth] include intelligent scholars with expertise (theological and/or scientific)
who are devout Christians with high moral character, who sincerely want to find
the truth."
a clarification: Prominent young-earth creationists
seem to claim, as in the quotations above (*)
that if
the earth is not young, the gospel cannot be true," which is
extremely unwise. They
do claim that young-earth doctrines are necessary as a foundation for correct doctrines of
Christianity; but they don't claim that young-earth belief is necessary
for personal salvation by Christ, so they would not say that "if
you don't believe in a young earth, your faith in Jesus will not save you."
a question about humility: When those
who boldly declare that "if
the earth is not young, the gospel cannot be true" get to heaven, if they
discover that in reality "the earth was not young" will they reject
this reality and refuse to joyously
proclaim, along with the heavenly elders (in Revelation 4:11) that "you
are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you
created all
things, and by your will they were created and have their being"? If
not, then maybe some current humility would help us more fully achieve the
command of Jesus (to love each other in the way He loved us) and behave
with a kindness that transcends our differences, so "everyone
will recognize that you are my disciples, when they see the love you have for
each other." (John 13:34-35)
hope for humility: Some young-earth creationists have a
different attitude. Because they want to learn, they carefully and
prayerfully examine, with an open mind, all arguments (for both a young and
old earth)
for the
important questions — about
interpretations of Genesis 1, animal death before human sin,
and scientific evidence for an old earth — and they see reasons for
humility. They
put things in perspective and decide that a young earth is not taught
with certainty in scripture (or nature) and is not theologically important,
so it is not an essential doctrine of Christianity. But
their humble voices are soft and their influence is small. By contrast,
those with the extreme views you see in the quotes above and below are
prominent leaders (John Morris & Ken
Ham are presidents of the two largest organizations promoting young-earth creation)
who speak loudly and exert a strong influence on millions of Christians, by
telling them to also adopt these extreme views. If
there is hope for humility in the community of Christians, it will require
either
an
effective
"grass
roots" movement, or leaders with attitudes that become more
humble and gentle.
• Many
Respected Christian Leaders are Open to an Old-Earth Perspective
• Does
the method of creation matter? — no, says Billy Graham. (1 k)
• But when a Christian who thinks "believing the Bible requires
belief in a young earth" examines the scientific evidence (as in AGE
OF THE EARTH: SCIENCE) and
concludes "the
earth is old" and then "if the Bible is wrong about the earth's age, maybe
it's also wrong about the rest," faith can be weakened or abandoned, as
described in Personal Experiences
of Former Young-Earth Creationists (17 k) which contains quotations
from (and links to) their web-pages.
• Why
can young-earth rigidity be harmful to Christian faith? by
Greg Neyman (6 k), who says you
can
be a Christian and believe in an old earth (13 k)
and explains (6 k) how
to become a Christian. In his pages about relationships and arguments he
has a good attitude toward young-earth creationists, and he is trying
to improve relationships
between
devout, theologically conservative Christians
who differ mainly in their conclusions about age of the earth. (6 k
and 3 k)
• The
Creation Date
Controversy by Hugh Ross,
who suggests that we "distinguish between the
essential belief in creation, more specifically in Jesus Christ as the personal,
transcendent Creator, and the nonessential belief in a particular view of when
creation took place and over what time span. The issue of when God created
must never again be used as a yardstick to measure a person's sincerity of faith
or spiritual maturity." (19 k) {this page is on
the website of Leadership University, which is a branch of Campus Crusade for
Christ}
• Biblical Theology
for "young
earth" Christians by
Craig Rusbult, encourages
respect (for other Christians) and faith (in God and the Bible)
because "the full gospel of Jesus... is fully
compatible with a young earth or old earth."
(27 k + 15k)
Is an old earth a slippery slope?
In a slippery slope argument, a view
is evaluated for what it
might
become
if it was taken to an extreme, instead
of evaluating the view for what it actually IS.
Let's return to a question from earlier: "Should we conclude
that a young earth is an essential
doctrine for Christians?" Ken Ham says "yes" because he
thinks belief in a young earth "is
a consequence of accepting the authority of the Word of God as an infallible
revelation from
our omniscient Creator," and because he thinks old-earth beliefs
are a Slippery
Slope to Unbelief: "If we re-interpret God’s
Word in Genesis to fit man’s fallible opinion, then ultimately, it would
only be consistent to apply this same hermeneutic (method of interpretation)
elsewhere, even to Christ's Resurrection."
If we think the earth is old, is a "slippery slope to unbelief" inevitable? No. Do
all claims that "the Bible teaches this" have equal support? No. We
can rationally decide that 144-Hour Creation is not true, but The Resurrection
is true and is an essential doctrine because (compared with a young earth) it
is much more certainly taught and important. Why
does Ken Ham think the earth moves?
• Why
shouldn't Christians accept millions of years? by Terry Mortenson in
AIG's New Answers Book (11 k)
• The
Danger of Misplaced Dogmatism by Vance McAllister (7 k
+ 34 comments in 34k), and a follow-up, The
Gospel of The Young Earth by Michael Patton (3 k + 190 comments
in 302k,
including some from Vance); in his own blog, Vance says "I
am dedicated to standing strongly for Scripture in those areas that are essentials
of the
faith, regardless of what the ‘world’ says. I can join Luther
and
say ‘here I stand’. But when we are talking about areas that
are not essential, which are not ‘salvation issues’, and upon which
sincere and dedicated Christians differ, dogmatism can be dangerous. ... I
want to remove the stumbling block to the Gospel message that is being created
by a dogmatic presentation of Creationism,... by the ‘either/or’ teaching
that [often] comes with
it."
• A New Look at an Old Earth, by Don Stoner,
Chapters 1 (Judging
Ourselves First), 2 (Science,
Theology, and Truth), and 7 (Repairing
the Damage)
• In another page you can see the vigorous ACTION STRATEGIES FOR EDUCATION ABOUT AGE by Christians with young-earth views, and responses by Christians with old-earth views.
•
Ken Ham explains the
necessity for believing in six literal days. (6 k)
A. Interpretations of Genesis 1
and The Bible
Does Genesis 1 describe a 144-hour creation? Or
when we examine the text, are other interpretations possible and preferable? And
when we carefully study the Bible as a whole, should we conclude that
the universe
is young, or old, or that neither view is clearly taught?
This section — which describes interpretations of Genesis as chronological history (day-age, consecutive days, nonconsecutive days, days of proclamation, or restoration after a gap) or nonchronological history (in a logical framework), and also asks whether descriptions in Genesis use cultural concepts from the Ancient Near East — is in a separate page, CREATIONIST INTERPRETATIONS OF GENESIS 1.
B. Death and Sin
The section asking "is it wise to link the
gospel with a young earth?" ends with Ken Ham emphasizing
the need for a young-earth interpretation of Genesis, and his strongest
claim is
about death and sin: "The Bible is adamant that
death, disease, and suffering came into the world as a result of sin.
...
As soon as Christians allow for death, suffering, and disease before sin,
then the whole foundations of the message of the Cross and the Atonement
have
been destroyed. ... The whole message of the Gospel falls apart if one
allows millions of years for the creation of the world."
Before human sin entered the world in Genesis 3, was there no death of higher animals (soulish nephesh-creatures) in nature? Or was a full supernatural protection from death, provided by God in Eden — symbolized by "the tree of life" — removed by God (in Genesis 3:22) due to sin, so Adam and Eve would begin to perish, with natural processes temporarily allowing life while gradually leading to death? If the earth is old, is the sinless life and sacrificial substitutionary death of Jesus (followed by His supernatural resurrection) sufficient for salvation, to convert sin and death into grace and life? (later, "the tree of life" is in heaven, in Revelation 2:7 & 22:14)
• Death
before Sin? — John Morris says "no" and explains why "If
death existed before Adam, then death is not the penalty for sin. How,
then, did Christ's death pay the penalty for our sin? If
death is not tied to Adam's sin, then
life is not tied to Christ's death and resurrection, and the Christian
faith is all in vain."
(2 k)
• TWO
Histories of Death (young-earth Christian and old-earth
atheistic)
by Ken Ham (7 k)
• THREE Histories of
Death — Theology for Humans not Animals by Craig Rusbult,
explains how old-earth Christian is similar
to young-earth
Christian (not old-earth atheistic) in an
overview of what the Bible
clearly teaches
about death
and sin. (18 k
+ 4k)
• The
god of an old earth (Does the Bible teach that disease, bloodshed,
violence and pain have always been ‘part of life’?) is a gift
from Ken Ham, who concludes that "the god of
an old earth destroys the Gospel" after
emphatically declaring (in bold font!) that "the
god of an old earth cannot therefore be the God of the Bible who is able
to
save
us from
sin
and death," so Christians who think the earth is old are "worshipping
a different god, the
cruel god of an old earth." This harsh accusation
brought a response from Greg Moore, who was motivated by the hope that
more Christians
will "focus
on the things that unite us, and avoid passing judgment on nonessential
matters" when he wrote Old-Earth
Creationism: A Heretical Belief? to explain why an old-earth view
of creation (specifically, Hugh Ross and his evangelistic ministry, Reasons
to Believe) can be authentically Christian. John Morris disagrees,
and in Evolution
and the Wages of Sin he explains why "if
the earth is old, if fossils date from before man's sin, then Christianity
is wrong!" (8 k, 24 k, 12 k)
•
If the earth really is old, these
harsh accusations against an old earth (by Ham and Morris) are really accusations
against God. Instead, it would seem wise
to adopt an attitude that is more humble, as
described above.
• No
Death before the Fall? by Richard Deem, shows why this young-earth
claim (which is defended "primarily by an appeal
to emotion")
is actually "a
young-earth problem" because it is not supported by a careful
study of the Bible.
• Why
is there death and suffering? is a young-earth view from Ken Ham & Jonathan
Sarfati (it was on the web for free but now it's being sold, and the link forwards to a page by Tommy Mitchell) (28 k + 1k)
• Theological
Analysis of Young-Earth Assertions about Death Before Sin by Gary Emberger,
concludes that "an
old-earth position... is theologically compatible with accepted approaches
to biblical interpretation." (37 k, PSCF)
• Chronology
of the Fall by Randy Isaac, looks at history and the effects of sin,
in a comprehensive examination of five possible time scales — instantaneous,
double, retroactive, gradual, atemporal — and (for the instantaneous
time scale) four ideas about the scope of the curse — physical, physiological,
anthropological, and spiritual plus psychological. (40 k,
PSCF)
• Why
Were Dangerous Animals Created? by David Snoke, who looks at scripture
and sees that "violent and dangerous creatures
are affirmed as good creations of God in the Bible" and discusses "the
biblical rationale for their creation." (40 k, PSCF)
•
Death
before Sin is a links-page (in the old-earth creation website of Answers
in Creation) with links to articles by Greg Neyman (Death
before the Fall of Man) and other authors.
• SIN AND THERMODYNAMICS? Henry Morris
taught that The Second Law
of Thermodynamics began
at The Fall,
but this wild claim has been criticized — first by old-earth creationists,
and then by fellow young-earth creationists (including Answers
in Genesis) — as explained in EVOLUTION
AND ENTROPY.
Human Origins — Adam and
Eve in History
When and where did Adam & Eve live? Are they the parents of all
humans? Did nonhuman "hominids" exist before them? Are
the lists of their descendants complete, and what about the long lifespans?
HUMAN ORIGINS: THEOLOGY & SCIENCE
Noah's Flood — Was it
local or global?
Did this flood cover a local region or the entire world? When we consider
all questions — by asking "how could all species fit on the ark?
does erets mean "planet" or "land"? what does geological
evidence show us?" and more — which type of flood (local or global)
is more consistent with evidence from scripture and nature? These
questions are examined in NOAH'S FLOOD:
THEOLOGY & SCIENCE which looks at our interpretations of scripture
and nature, although most age-science questions are in AGE
OF THE EARTH: SCIENCE.
Appearance of Old Age in a Young Creation
Was the universe created recently in a mature state, so it has a false "apparent
history" and appears to be much older than it really is?
This question is explored in APPEARANCE
OF AGE — THEOLOGY
and DISTANT STARLIGHT — SCIENCE.
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