At 01:42 PM 09/10/2000 +0800, you wrote:
>Stephen Jones:
>That is, they should ask themselves whether the fact that they spend their
>time and energy attacking their fellow Christians who are arguing against
>anti-Christian philosophies like materialism, naturalism and Darwinism, and
>defending their atheist/agnostics colleagues who hold those philosophies, is
>not good evidence that they themselves have in fact been taken captive by
>those "hollow and deceptive" philosophies?
Cliff stated that Dembski had lied to him personally. Why should he support
and defend such a person? Indeed how could he do it and remain a Christian?
And I want Stephen to point out what, specifically, is anti-Christian about
the following passage:
(This is from Lenny Flank's website
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/2437/therapsd.htm)
. The earliest therapsids show the typical reptilian type of jaw joint,
with the articular bone in the jaw firmly attached to the quadrate bone in
the skull. In later fossils from the same group, however, the
quadrate-articular bones have become smaller, and the dentary and squamosal
bones have become larger and moved closer together. This trend reaches its
apex in a group of therapsids known as cynodonts, of which the genus
Probainognathus is a representative. Probainognathus possessed
characteristics of both reptile and mammal, and this transitional aspect
was shown most clearly by the fact that it had TWO jaw joints--one
reptilian, one mammalian:
"Probainognathus, a small cynodont reptile from the Triassic sediments of
Argentina, shows characters in the skull and jaws far advanced toward the
mammalian condition. Thus it had teeth differentiated into incisors, a
canine and postcanines, a double occipital condyle and a well-developed
secondary palate, all features typical of the mammals, but most
significantly the articulation between the skull and the lower jaw was on
the very threshhold between the reptilian and mammalian condition. The two
bones forming the articulation between skull and mandible in the reptiles,
the quadrate and articular respectively, were still present but were very
small, and loosely joined to the bones that constituted the mammalian joint
. . . Therefore in Probainognathus there was a double articulation between
skull and jaw, and of particular interest, the quadrate bone, so small and
so loosely joined to the squamosal, was intimately articulated with the
stapes bone of the middle ear. It quite obviously was well on its way
towards being the incus bone of the three-bone complex that characterizes
the mammalian middle ear." (Colbert and Morales, 1991, pp. 228-229)
Susan
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