RE: Blood clotting and IC'ness?

From: Nelson Alonso (nalonso@megatribe.com)
Date: Fri Sep 15 2000 - 12:03:18 EDT

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    In a message dated 9/13/2000 9:56:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
    nalonso@megatribe.com writes:

    << Nelson:
    Well one of the ways design is evident is in how something is built or
    assembled. If I see a group of rocks that form a sequence specific pattern
    which says "Welcome to the Rockies" I eliminate natural pathways and make a
    design inference. But what I was talking about above was how Irreducibly
    Complex systems eliminate natural processes as a cause and offers
    intelligent design as a plausible alternative.

    >>
    Sure. But in the case of IC that's what you have to show. We all agree that
    design can sometimes be infered quite reliably. IC does not eliminate
    natural
    processes as a cause, it claims that it does but it has not shown this. It
    does not even show that ID is a plausible and useful alternative.
    You seem to overestimate the power of ID and IC. Perhaps that's caused by
    the
    unsupported claims like the ones you make above?

    Nelson:
    Can you show how what I say above is not supported? You have to first
    support your claim that IC systems can evolve. You cannot evolve something
    that is totally ineffective below the sum of it's parts.



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