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[mailto:evolution-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On Behalf Of FMAJ1019@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 12:11 PM
To: nalonso@megatribe.com; evolution@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: Blood clotting and IC'ness?
In a message dated 9/12/2000 8:28:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
nalonso@megatribe.com writes:
<< Nelson:
The clotting cascade requires TPA and it's activator among many other parts
to function. None of the above addresses anything about the parts that make
the clotting cascade irreducibly complex.
>>
FMA:
Perhaps you could identify the parts of the blood clotting cascade that are
essential parts and what parts are not? Before we spend our time and effort
on showing what is not necessarily IC, we should perhaps focus on what
exactly is claimed to be IC.
Nelson:
Lets work with those parts that I mentioned. Do you know how the clotting
system works?
FMA:
Since pathways have been identified through which IC systems can arise
naturally, do you still think that IC systems are a reliable detector of
design?
Nelson:
Since you have not shown any pathways to any IC systems I still think that
IC systems are a reliable detector of design.
FMA:
If you believe that IC is still a reliable detector of design, can you show
how it can exclude a natural pathway as a designer?
Nelson:
As I illustrated with the Dawkins discussion of the 91 membranes, it
succesfully eliminates natural selection.
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