Re: fine tuning

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Fri Apr 11 2003 - 14:15:42 EDT

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    Re: fine tuningA serious question. What is the evidence for ID in the geological sphere which is of course neither cosmological or biological?

    Those who have read my PSCF article of Dec 1999 will know I want to know in what way a glacier is designed. After all glacial scenery is very aesthetic whether one goes to the British mountains, the Alps or Yosemite.

    To be flippant . is the chaotic and random nature of glaciers a sign of ID?

     Michael

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Howard J. Van Till
      To: Debbie Mann ; Asa
      Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 4:46 PM
      Subject: Re: fine tuning

      From: "Debbie Mann" <deborahjmann@insightbb.com>

    > ... There is also the biological argument from the web page. Robert Shapiro
    > has several books touting the same thing. The simplest life that we know
    > requires a complex series of events each of which should take millenia to
    > occur. However, several of them must occur within the same sphere in a
    > period of a couple of months. And, they each have different biological
    > requirements in order to evolve. That first strand of DNA, or even RNA, is a
    > mighty big task.

      I'm not sure what your intended point is here, but what you say does help to illustrate the point I made in my earlier post regarding the inconsistency of ID's strategies in cosmology and biology.

      Cosmology: The PRESENCE of cosmological fine-tuning is declared to be evidence for ID.

      Biology: The LACK of biological fine-tuning is declared to be evidence for ID.

      Howard Van Till



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