Re: On Pi and E

From: Vernon Jenkins (vernon.jenkins@virgin.net)
Date: Thu Jul 12 2001 - 17:55:48 EDT

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    Dear All,

    In respect of the ongoing 'iota subscript' affair and the resulting
    controversy surrounding the correct evaluation of John 1:1, Iain writes
    as follows:

    I would like to try to put this issue of the missing, or otherwise, iota
    subscript in the text of John 1:1, into perspective.

    All these objections ignore the fact that there is a coherent basis of
    numerical evidence which ought to be assessed objectively as data,
    independent of any preconceptions about what it "ought to be".
    Experimental data is invariably noisy, but that does not stop us
    inferring laws on the basis of measurement. We cannot tell if John
    originally wrote in the iota or not; and that it seems to me is
    irrelevant, and as irrelevant as pondering whether the scribe who copied
    it in the Codex Sinaiaticus copied or did not copy an iota.

    Let me illustrate this by enlarging on an excellent example of numerical
    design given in Richard Dawkins's book "River out of Eden". I'll tell
    the story in a slightly different way to Dawkins to illustrate the
    point, but the principle is exactly the same. Dawkins sets out by
    telling us that this is a perfectly feasible scenario in the not too
    distant future.

    Suppose at some time in the future, an infectious flu virus is sweeping
    across the world, and we have advanced technology to a degree where we
    can treat diseases by decoding the DNA base sequence, finding the active
    proteins and develop drugs to order. The virus is therefore sequenced,
    and someone notices, looking at a printout that in a non-coding part of
    the DNA there is the following base sequence:

    aaccttggaaatttcccgggaaaaaccccctttttgggggaaaaaaaccccccctttttttggggggg ...

    and so on for a long time, a c t g cycling round with the number of
    reps increasing each time. Counting the number of reps on each cycle,
    you get 2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29, and you notice it is the first 10
    prime numbers. After that, it is apparently junk DNA.

    Dawkins asserts confidently that the sequence of primes would not occur
    naturally, (i.e. did not arise through an evolutionary process), and
    that we may therefore deduce that it was deliberately put there by an
    intelligent mind. The purpose of it, he tells us, is to grab the
    attention of someone, to draw attention - but to what? The biochemist
    in the lab who spots this assumes it was put there by a human and that
    it is a message in a bottle ( "sneezed around the world" as Dawkins
    brilliantly puts it). A reasonably simple decoding scheme is applied to
    the codes that immediately follow the prime sequence, and they find a
    message in English from a biochemist who has been kidnapped by a
    despotic regime, and is being forced to use his skill in developing
    deadly viruses for germ warefare.

    But now let us vary the story a little. Suppose by the time it reaches
    the lab, the virus has mutated a little, and supposing the seventh base
    on the string is now a 't' instead of a 'g'. Now it doesn't make a
    perfect sequence of primes. But how many people would then say that
    because of a single mistake that has crept in, that the whole sequence
    is thereby invalidated? I suggest no-one; the pattern would still be
    evident if, say 1% of the codes were mutated, maybe even 5%. Perhaps by
    the time 10% got corrupted one might begin to doubt that it was anything
    more than coincidence. But in the case of the missing iota, we are
    talking about a single change. With the iota, multiple instances of
    interlocked numerical phenomena are observed, just as indicative of
    numerical design as the example in Dawkins's book.

    To dismiss the whole thing on the basis of one possible "mutation" is,
    it seems to me no different from dismissing the evidence on the basis
    of a single point mutation in the Dawkins example. No respectable
    scientist would ignore the observed underlying pattern on the basis of
    such a thing.

    To briefly address another point; let me re-iterate - the numbers are
    not important in themselves; but they are an attention-grabbing device
    to suggest that the text was produced (inspired by, designed, call it
    what you will), by an external intelligent source.

    Regards,

    Vernon

    http://www.otherbiblecode.com



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