Re: Teleology

From: Ralph Krumdieck (ralphkru@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU)
Date: Tue Sep 12 2000 - 13:56:04 EDT

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    >
    >Teleology was a part of science until Darwin.

    Hi Bertvan. Judging from your previous posts I would assume that if you
    had been around during this time, you would have been arguing for
    *no* teleology assumptions, since teleology was the dominant scientific
    view being forced on all the kids in school? Ain't life strange? :)

    >Some pretty impressive discoveries were made under an assumption of
    >teleology.

    Did these discoveries *depend* on an assumption of teleology?

    >Then Darwin said, "I
    >can explain nature without teleology." It was a pretty good explanation for
    >its time. However science has made discoveries about the complexity of the
    >cell and the genome, which cause many of us to doubt lack of teleology. And
    >science made these discoveries in spite of a "no teleology" assumption.

    Again (or should it be "on the other hand"?) did these discoveries *depend*
    on an assumption of "no teleology"?

    >If anyone believes the creation stories proposed by various religions, I
    >wouldn't argue. If anyone believes the creation stories proposed by Darwin,
    >I wouldn't ague. However those creation stories no long appear plausible to
    >some of us.

    Darwin's "creation stories"? Implying evolution is really just another
    religious
    creation story? Is evolution a "creation story", religious or not? This is a
    stretch for my understanding of the theory. But maybe I'm in need of
    updating.

    > Darwinists express fear that science will be damaged by an
    >assumption of design. Fear not. Science will continue as it has in the
    >past, with or without an assumption of design.

    I agree with you.
    ralph



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