Evidence against ID?

From: Chris Cogan (ccogan@telepath.com)
Date: Wed Aug 30 2000 - 00:30:44 EDT

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    A while back, Stephen Jones quoted from G.A. Kerkut's "Implications of
    Evolution." I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen if
    the theory in question were ID instead of Evolutionary theory, so I did
    some substituting. Here is the new version, for your amusement:

             "The undergraduate of today is just as bad; he is still the same
             opinion-swallowing grub. He will gladly devour opinions and views
             that he does not properly understand in the hope that he may later
             regurgitate them during one of his examinations. Regardless of his
             subject, be it Engineering, Physics, English or Biology, he will have
             faith in theories that he only dimly follows and will call upon
             various authorities to support what he does not understand. In this
             he differs not one bit from the irrational theology student of the
             bygone age who would mumble his dogma and hurry through his
             studies in order to reach the peace and plenty of the comfortable
             living in the world outside. But what is worse, the present-day
             student claims to be different from his predecessor in that he thinks
             scientifically and despises dogma, and when challenged he says in
             defence, "After all, one has to accept something, or else it takes a
             very long time to get anywhere."

             Well, let us see the present-day student "getting somewhere." For
             some years now I have tutored undergraduates on various aspects
             of Biology. It is quite common during the course of conversation to
             ask the student if he knows the evidence for ID. This usually
             evokes a faintly superior smile at the simplicity of the question,
             since it is an old war-horse set in countless examinations. "Well,
    sir,
             there is the evidence from [what?]," the
             student will say in a nursery-rhyme jargon, sometimes even ticking
             off the words on his fingers. He would then sit and look fairly
             complacent and wait for a more difficult question to follow, such as
             the nature of the evidence for Unnatural Preselection. Instead I
    would
             continue on with ID.

             "Do you think that the ID Theory is the best explanation
             yet advanced to explain animal interrelationships?" I would ask.

             "Why, of course, sir," would be the reply in some amazement at my
             question." There is nothing else, except for the evolutionary
    explanation
             held by some naturalists and most biologists."

             "So," I would continue, "you believe in ID because there is
             no other theory?"

             "Oh, no, sir," would be the reply, "I believe in it because of the
             evidence I just mentioned."

             "Have you read any book on the evidence for ID?" I would
             ask.

             "Yes, sir," and here he would mention the names of authors of a
             popular school textbook, "and of course, sir, there is that book by
             Johnson, Darwin on Trial."
             "Have you read this book?" I asked.

             "Well, not all through, sir."

             "About how much?"

             "The first part, sir."

             "The first fifty pages?"

             "Yes, sir, about that much; maybe a bit less."

             "I see, and that has given you your firm understanding of
             ID?"

             "Yes, sir."

             "Well, now, if you really understand an argument you will be able
             to indicate to me not only the points in favour of the argument but
             also the most telling points against it."

             "I suppose so, sir."

             "Good. Please tell me, then, some of the evidence against the
             theory of ID."

             "Against what, sir?"

             "The theory of ID."

             "But there isn't any, sir."



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