From: sheila-mcginty@geotec.net
Date: Fri Apr 18 2003 - 15:32:27 EDT
This was the most arrogant and shocking email I have read on ASA. As a
geologist, I do NOT believe that all crustal movement took place during the
flood. Because of this, you (Michael) say that I do not believe in miracles
and lack faith. I honestly hope that you did not intend the email to be this
harsh or rude.
The Bible specifically says that we cannot understand the mysteries of God.
He is more awesome and more amazing than we could ever imagine. To state that
your arguments are irrefutable is make yourself "like God." You are saying
that you completely understand the mystery of God's divine nature and His
creation. I do not believe that you or anyone else does. Your arguments may
appear irrefutable to you but we are warned - lean not unto our own
understanding!
While I love the research and debate, I do not believe we will have the answer
while we are on earth. God does not give us all the answers because the
research and wrestling with God is what makes life exciting and wonderful.
This is how we learn to seek God and to love Him with our whole hearts! I
have many questions for God and can hardly wait for the answers!
Quoting Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>:
> Dick,
>
> You obviously dont believe in miracles because of your lack of faith. If
> you did you would have no difficulty in beleiving that all crustal
> movements took place during the flood.
>
> There is no need to respond as my argument is irrefutable. Humphreys
> also demonstrated this.
>
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dick Fischer
> To: ASA
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:38 PM
> Subject: Plate Tectonics
>
>
> Here is an anti-YEC argument from nature. (I borrowed a little from
> Don Winterstein.) Can anybody see necessary additions or corrections?
>
> Plate Tectonics
>
> When scientists began bouncing radio waves off the moon they
> discovered something which to them at the time appeared quite odd.
> Instead of being stationary, the major continents were drifting ever so
> slightly but perceptively such that the continents were moving apart.
> This detected movement is one independent measure of what has become a
> staple of geologic theory - plate tectonics.
>
> The mid Atlantic rift lies midway between the continents of North and
> South America to the west and Europe and Africa to the east. As the
> continents drift slowly in opposite directions, molten rock boils up in
> the center and solidifies when it hits the cold water on the sea floor.
> The mid Atlantic rift is not quite a straight line that stretches north
> and south.
>
> At present, we don't know whether the molten rock boiling up from the
> earth's mantle exerts a force pushing the continents away from each
> other, or whether the momentum of the moving continents drawing apart
> causes a fissure which the molten rock fills, or whether there is a
> combination of forces at work.
>
> Samples of the rock have been taken from the sea floor. Relative ages
> of the rock, measured by radiometric dating techniques, increase going
> both east and west from the rift center. The age of the rock is the
> same at points that are equidistant from the middle of the Atlantic
> ocean, and increasingly older moving away from the rift.
>
> For example, the relative amount of decay isotopes present in rock
> 1,000 miles east of the rift will be the same as that contained in rock
> 1,000 miles to the west. An equal amount of decay elements are found
> at all points that are equidistant from each other going east and west.
>
> In addition, the iron contained in the deposits when the molten rock
> first reaches the ocean floor and solidifies, orients itself with the
> same polarity as the earth. Again, at equidistant points we see regular
> reversals in polarity many times in the last 200 million years since the
> continents were joined.
>
> Whether the Genesis flood was local or global can be argued, but let's
> assume that the flood occurred about 5,000 years ago. Since that point
> in time, there have been no magnetic pole reversals. So we can say that
> no reversals have occurred in the last 5,000 years.
>
> Yet from core samples taken from the ocean floor, and from many other
> samples taken from all over the earth, we see pole swapping clearly
> occurring in sine wave fashion. And from recent data we can detect a
> slight decline in magnetic strength as the earth moves slowly toward
> another reversal.
>
> Working the data back, we can see that the continents were joined at
> one time. This massive formation of all the continents joined together
> roughly 200,000 million years ago has been dubbed "Pangea." Since that
> time the continents have been drifting apart.
>
> Antarctica, which now covers the South Pole, once was located in
> temperate climates. Dinosaur bones have been found there, yet remains
> of more recent mammalian, land animals are absent. This is consistent
> with our knowledge of the periods of earth history when dinosaurs roamed
> the earth from 225 million years ago to 65 million years ago, and
> mammals only came into existence during the last 150 million years
>
> Plate tectonics data constitutes one of the best data sets an informed
> Christian might use to convince an open-minded young-earth creationist
> that the world is not as young as he or she might think. Have
> young-earth creationists provided an explanation as to how the mechanics
> of plate tectonics could be explained in the span of one year at the
> time of the flood? No.
>
> Only an earth that has been around for a long time (at least hundreds
> of millions of years) could leave this kind of consistent data
> testifying to its ancient geologic history.
>
> Dick Fischer - Genesis Proclaimed Association
> Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
> www.genesisproclaimed.org
>
Sheila McGinty
sheila-mcginty@geotec.net
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