Reflectorites
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 02:38:47 EDT, DNAunion@aol.com wrote:
>>FMAJ: Nice strawmen and non sequitor.
>
>DNAunion: Hello again Mr. Brainless. I was providing you with "evidence to
>the contrary" as anyone with half a brain would be able to figure out by
>reading your statement and my reply. Are you really so simple-minded that
>you can't follow a simple four-sentence, one-idea exchange?
>
>>FMAJ: Do you have evidence that the assumption of non natural origins of
>life is supported by evidence?
>
>DNAunion: Nice strawman and non sequitur. Look peabrain, here is what you
>said, "So far the assumption of a purely natural origins of life is quite
>reasonable absent any evidence to the contrary". And that is what I replied
>to.
[...]
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 03:51:22 EDT, DNAunion@aol.com wrote:
>
>DNAunion: Nope, idiot - and you're an underhanded one at that. First, stop
>stuffing your stupid ass words into my mouth. Your underhanded distortion is
>obvious - it is not "according to you [DNAunion]", but rather "according to
>me, FMAJ, who is doing nothing but merely parroting Elsberry, who claims to
>have reached a valid conclusion from Dembski's statements". See how
>unbelievably manipulating and dishonest you are. Perhaps if you stopped your
>outright lying and deceit, and underhanded tactics, our exchanges could
>progress. But since your entire post follows this trend of yours, I doubt
>you and I will ever be able to get back to civil discussion.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 04:02:10 EDT, DNAunion@aol.com wrote:
>DNAunion: Okay stupid. You said, "We do not have evidence of inteligent
>design as it applies to biology." Nucacids provided you with valid examples
>of intelligent design in biology. You rejected his valid counter examples to
>your ludicrous claim, and changed the subject to asking about evidence -
>apparently empirical - of intelligent design in the past. That much is
>obvious - you were outright, plainly, no one can deny, purely, unequivocally
>wrong: and you attempted to divert us all from this fact by playing a typical
>sleight of hand trick, hoping no one would notice or at least not comment.
I have just read these and I wish to disassociate myself from DNAunion's ad
hominems above (and any others).
It is one thing to say that FJ/Pim's *posts* are "mindless one-liners" as I have
myself done in the past.
It is another thing entirely, and an ad hominem, to say this of FJ/Pim
*himself*. On behalf of the ID movement I wish to apologise to FJ/Pim.
I would encourage DNAunion to not let some (not all) evolutionists drag
him down into the gutter with them. In the case of some (not all)
evolutionists, that may be just what they want.
I make it a rule to assume that the problem is not any lack of intelligence,
but the corrupting influence of a mindless (literally) materialist-naturalist
*philosophy*:
"Now I quote all this not merely because Gould holds a chair at
Harvard and I do not; although this made the target all therefore
tempting, but because Gould represents a charming intelligence
corrupted by a shallow system of belief. (Berlinski D., "Good as
Gould," in "Black Mischief: Language, Life, Logic, Luck," 1988,
p.294)
Steve
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