Re: ID and Creationism

From: Chris Cogan (ccogan@telepath.com)
Date: Thu Oct 19 2000 - 15:48:22 EDT

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    At 09:54 AM 10/19/2000, you wrote:
    >>At 10:02 AM 10/18/2000, you wrote:
    >>>>SJ>Here is a test of "dogmatism". I have in the past stated that I am
    >>>>prepared
    >>>>to admit that I could be completely wrong about theism, Christianity, ID
    >>>>and/or creationism and that atheism, Darwinism, and/or naturalistic
    >>>>evolution could be completely right.
    >>>>
    >>>>I have invited Chris and other atheists to similarly state publicly that
    >>>>they could be completely wrong about atheism, Darwinism, and/or
    >>>>naturalistic
    >>>>evolution and that theism, Christianity, ID and/or creationism could be
    >>>>completely right.
    >>>>
    >>>>To date, AFAIK, no atheist has been willing to admit this.
    >>
    >>Susan
    >>>atheism/Darwinism and Christianity/creationism are two big lumps in your
    >>>mind. They are four separate issues for me.
    >>>
    >>>Theism:
    >>>Someone once asked H.L. Menken what he would do if he died and woke up
    >>>in heaven and saw Jesus surrounded by the apostles. He said he would
    >>>walk up to Jesus and say "Sir, I was wrong." I'm afraid it would take a
    >>>similar level of evidence for me to admit the same thing.
    >>
    >>Chris
    >>How would he know it was Jesus? He might be in some pseudo-hell created
    >>by some naturalistic alien sadist. :-)

    Susan
    >Nah. Jesus is easy to spot. He looks like a 14th century Italian
    >aristocrat. Haven't you ever seen the Shroud of Turin?

    Chris
    Or, should it be called the "Fraud of Turin"?



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