Re: WHY DOES THE UNIVERSE WORK?

From: Richard Wein (rwein@lineone.net)
Date: Fri Oct 06 2000 - 12:05:32 EDT

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    From: FMAJ1019@aol.com <FMAJ1019@aol.com>

    >In a message dated 10/5/2000 10:35:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, DNAunion
    >writes:
    >
    >
    >> >FMAJ: Because we have direct evidence of the "evolution" of life and
    >> species and mutation and natural selection.
    >>
    >> DNAunion: We have direct evidence of intelligent design: computers,
    cars,
    >> televisions.
    >
    >Cool but a non sequitor. We do not have evidence of inteligent design as it
    >applies to biology.
    >
    > But more importantly, we have direct evidence of intelligent design in
    >biology: genetic engineering and rational design
    >> in protein engineering. In addition, we have direct evidence of
    intelligent
    >> design creating circuits that can undergo
    >
    >Again this is not evidence of biological design in existing biological
    >systems. That humans can manipulate nature is not in question.
    >
    > mutation and selection, thus nature no longer has a monopoly on RM & NS as
    a
    >creative mechanism. In addition, we
    >> have direct evidence of intelligent design creating robots that can
    create
    >> other robots: and self-replicating robots are highly probable before the
    >> end of this century.
    >>
    >
    >You are confused, that RM*NS can be used succesfully to design things is
    not
    >evidence that ID is required for RM*NS to work. On the contrary, it shows
    >that RM*NS can be powerful algorithms that can generate CSI.

    Hold your horses! Until Dembski clarifies the meaning of CSI, it's not clear
    that *anything* can generate CSI.

    I suggest you restrict yourself to saying that RMNS can generate
    information. (But then you'd better be prepared to say what you mean by
    information.)

    Richard Wein (Tich)



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