Re: Reply to CCogan: Waste and computer evolution

From: DNAunion@aol.com
Date: Wed Oct 04 2000 - 02:03:48 EDT

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    >>FMAJ: Why not? If natural selection is an intelligent designer for
    instance, why are there limits to evolution.

    DNAunion: That sounds like an oxymoron to me. If you have any kind of
    intelligence and design involved in the selection process, then it is not
    NATURAL selection, be definition. What am I missing?

    >>FMAJ: But even more relevant why are we confusing evolution with the
    ability to create life from non-life? Is that not a strawman?

    DNAunion: No, it is not. How do you propose that life arose (according to
    naturalistic position)?

    Did it pop up fully formed instantaneously - nothing one second and then
    poof! a cell (or self-replicator)? Or did it evolve - that is, did it arise
    by the gradual complexification of organic molecules leading from, say PNA or
    p-RNA into the RNA World, from which eventually a self-replicator arose, that
    then improved in its fidelity and/or rate of reproduction to outproduce its
    competitors so that it dominated the niche and... leading to the appearance
    of catalytic proteins, the most useful being retained the the unuseful being
    eliminated .... followed by the appearance of DNA (the selective advantage
    being that it is a more stable storage form for genetic information than is
    RNA), all of which became encapsulated (at some point) in a liposome
    (selective advantage is to concentrate biologically relevant molecules), with
    metabolism entering the picture at some point ... leading to the first full
    blown cell.

    In fact, if you want, I can provide about a dozen quotes from origin of life
    researchers that explicitly state the link between evolution - and even
    Darwinian evolution - in abiogenesis.



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