Re: Blood clotting and IC'ness?

From: FMAJ1019@aol.com
Date: Fri Sep 15 2000 - 01:26:47 EDT

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    In a message dated 9/14/2000 7:27:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
    nalonso@megatribe.com writes:

    << Ralph:
    If you mean actually, physically, build it--no, I couldn't do that. But
    it is even more beyond me, or any one else, I think, to build it
    simultaneously, as you say an IC system *must* be built. If, as you
    say, natural pathways to IC systems are not possible, then are we
    beginning to zero in on your concept of what or who the Intelligent
    Designer must be? 1.non-natural 2.more intelligent (and/or capable)
    than us.

    Nelson:
    I think you misunderstood me and I apologize if I was vague. However, when I
    say "you cannot build it step by step through functional precursors" >>

    How did you reach this conclusion though? Is that not what you have to show
    rather than assert?
    I

    << really mean "you cannot build this system by mimicing natural processes".
    >>

    Again, something you have to show rather than assert.

    H<< owever, you are an intelligent agent, and therefore, you may build it by
    adding multiple parts together, with foresight, and future usefulness. You
    are natural selection with eyes.
    >>

    True but that does not prove your point. It merely shows that a designer
    could also do it and perhaps better.

    T<< hese give some clues as to who the designer is, namely, an intelligent
    agent with at least human intelligence.
    >>

    Not really. It shows that humans with intelligence can do certain things. Is
    true intelligence required? Perhaps but that needs to be shown not asserted



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