Re: belief based upon faith? (was ID vs.?)

From: billwald@juno.com
Date: Tue Sep 12 2000 - 22:09:42 EDT

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    >>Metaphysical knowing is based of faith and/or belief, the words being
    >>approx equivalent.

    >This is just playing with words. Faith and belief are synonyms:

    Yes, agreed

    >The question we are discussing is not whether or not faith is "a
    >metaphysical form of knowing" but whether it is based on "evidence". The

    >above verse says it is based on "evidence".

    Yes, but metaphysical evidence, not physical evidence - dreams, visions,
    musings,
    philosophical diccussions. going back to the beginning

    >>SJ>It is a tautology to speak of a "belief based upon faith".
    >>If Cliff has a "belief" it must be based on *evidence*.

    belief is based on metaphysical evidence (evidence not subject to
    scientific investigation) As St Paul taught we won't need faith/belief in
    the next world for in the next world we will have knowledge. (now we see
    through a glass darkly) In the next world we will have hard exidence,
    clear sight. So St Paul differentiates between physical knowing and
    metaphysical knowing.

    billwald@juno.com
     
     
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