Bertvan:
Hi FMAJ,
As Stan pointed out, you seem full of one liners, but if you want to play
straight man, it's ok with me.
I try to keep it simple. Why the need to elaborate if the message can be
exchanged with a few lines of text?
>>Bertvan: Everyone has their own definitions if ID, evolution,
>> Darwinism, etc. I have nothing against natural processes.
>>Whether or not ID is "scientific" is unimportant to me.
FMAJ
>That might very well be but since ID is used to displace
>"naturalism" in science (Discovery Institute: Wedge)
>it is important to determine if ID is really scientific.
Bertvan:
It would never be my intention to displace "naturalism" in science.
I am not talking about you though. Many ID'ers seem to be quite intent of
doing that which is perhaps not your intention.
Bertvan: I wouldn't even want to eradicate materialists. Diversity of
opinion is
healthy. If ever naturalism appears in danger of being "displaced", I'll
join you in protest. Meanwhile ID supporters seems to be the only people
voicing opposition to "Naturalism" being inflicted upon everyone as
scientific fact.
Often in a confusion of science and naturalism.
>Bertvan: Until these
>>discussions about evolution, I assumed atheists were merely
>>people with a different view of religion. However most
>>atheists on the Internet appear arrogant, intolerant, shrill
>>and dominated by a paranoid fear of religion.
FMAJ:
>Are you stereotyping a bit here?
Bertvan;
Yes. However maybe you would like to point out a list of tolerant
atheists.
You know, the ones willing to allow those scientists who choose, to assume
nature is the result of an intelligent design.
Again you have to be careful here. If scientists chose to assume that nature
is a result of ID and let their faith interfere with their science then it is
by all means something which should be opposed at all cost. Since you already
have admitted to stereotyping, there is really no need for me to point out a
list of tolerant atheists.
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