Re: ICR

Bill Hamilton (hamilton@predator.cs.gmr.com)
Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:33:56 -0500

Stephen writes

>Funnily enough, I don't agree that Gish was "mean-spirited" although I
>do agree he did not do very well compared to Ross. The transcript
>reveals them (Dobson, Gish and Ross) all laughing together and they
>finish on a note of Christian praise together.

I just read the one that's on the talk.origins archives, and it doesn't
appear to be complete. Gish's attitude comes out more clearly in the audio
tape. He seems agitated and about to shout most of the time, while Ross
stays pretty calm for the most part. (Only when complaining about a cheap
shot made at his organization by an ICR staffer does he raise his voice at
all. Unfortunately that exchange was deleted from the transcript. I will
hunt through my archives and see if I can find the original)
>
>This reminds me of a post I read about Johnson's RITB as being "full
>of bile". When I read it, I thought Johnson was hard-hitting but
>gracious.

Hard hitting, yes. And anyone who has met or corresponded with Phil knows
he _is_ a gracious person. But as one of his frequent opponents in debates
said to me once, "He argues like a lawyer." No offense is intended, but
the shock value of the words has been carefully calculated. Some people
will inevitably take offense.

>How we perceive people depends a lot on whether they agree
>with us! :-)

Unfortunately true.
>
>If anyone wants me to email them the transcripts, please ask. If there
>is sufficient demand I will post them to the Reflector.

If I succeed in finding the originals I will gladly post or email them.
Your pleasure.
>
>BTW, I did not realise that Roger was on the Evolution mail Reflector.
>I thought he was only on the ASA reflector?

Oops! I must learn to look at headers more carefully. Which reflector it
came from is buried down several lines in the header and sometimes I
carelessly forget to look for the origin.

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