Re: Human explosion (fwd)

John W. Burgeson (73531.1501@compuserve.com)
17 Dec 95 23:15:29 EST

Stephen wrote:

>> Do you really think an Isaiah or
a Paul (or indeed Jesus), would think it is OK to ignore the
possibility that God may have originated life?>>

Of course not! All I will say is that when they propose that
solution, which you & I know to be true, they are practicing philosophy
and not "doing science."

>>Don't get me wrong! It is easy for me (a non-scientist) to criticise
scientists who are Christians for not making a stand for God in their
science. Indeed they would be "ignored or ridiculed", or as Johnson
puts it "marginalized".

However, if God did in fact create the universe, life and life's major
groups, then who *is* going to bear witness to it, if it is not those
self-same scientists who are Christians?>>

I would expect those self-same scientists to do so, of course. No
more & no less than non-scientists, BTW.

>>Fortunately there *are* some scientists who are Christians, eg. Dean
Kenyon, who have had the courage of their convictions, made a stand
for God, and have paid the price. My prayer is that, through the
philosophical leadership of Phil Johnson, J.P. Moreland, and others
in the theistic science movement, this trickle will become a flood!>>

The argument can be made that the price they paid was to expound
their views in the wrong arena. I guess that sharpens the controversy.
If they had presented the case under the label "philosophy," and explained
carefully why it was not "science," and that "science," being basically
a game, could not never nohow entertain the ideas, perhaps
things would have gone better.

My prayer is not that science becomes "theistic," but that people
begin to better explain the limitations of science-as-it-is-practiced.
I think Phil is advancing that cause.

Burgy