Re: [asa] fellowship in this group

To David: I think I said it was my perspective. I don't like to put a
label on someone who does not claim it first.

My good friend Glenn Morton has said to me that he is "far right," but
my own view of him is not that.

To Michael: "Sliding out of an evangelical perspective?" As I
understand the term "evangelical," it is large enough to include
Christians of many persuasions, including both fundamentalist and
liberal.

A search on the terms "liberal" and "evangelical" comes up with a
number of interesting looking sites, among which is
www.liberalevangelical.org and I'll have to take a look at some of
them.

To Merv: C.S. Lewis is a favorite author of mine. I have many of his
books and always enjoy rereading him.

To all: Remember "faith seeking understanding." Those 3 words sum up
so much of what I think we are all about here. And anyone who
contributes to that end ought to be welcomed. Those who don't can be
ignored until they post something of substance.

On 9/16/09, mrb22667@kansas.net <mrb22667@kansas.net> wrote:
> Don't know if I qualify as good company or not; but I didn't think your post
> was of any extreme fundamentalist nature, David. I resonate with the Way
> Lewis
> thinks on a lot of things. And while I agree that "lockstep" is not and
> should
> not be a requirement for fellowship, I also think that for a community to
> have
> any meaningful cohesion there will be some non-negotiables. For Christians
> it
> seems to me that Christ is one of those. I'm not sure I agree that we can't
> fellowship with non-Christians --I think I/we do. But if somebody is going
> to
> say they are Christian that should mean some certain minimum set of things -
> presumably including Jesus Christ. We may be defining "fellowship" in
> varying
> ways here.
>
> --Merv
>
>
> Quoting David Clounch <david.clounch@gmail.com>:
>
>> I have warm feelings for my fellow Texan. But sadly I am not a
>> fundamentalist.
>> So I do object to that fundamental misunderstanding.
>>
>> Perhaps its John's definition of fundamentalist that is the problem here?
>> :)
>>
>> If agreeing with CS Lewis and the apostle Paul makes one a fundamentalist
>> then I guess I'd be in good company.
>>
>> I still don't understand why we don't have more Muslims here if the point
>> is
>> inter-faith discussion instead of intra-faith discussion. I'd like to
>> invite my friend Mustafa to the discussion. And maybe some others. Some
>> local Minnesota muslims perhaps? Would they be welcome?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM, John Burgeson (ASA member) <
>> hossradbourne@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > One of the ASA's tenets is "Faith seeking understanding." I find that
>> > Bernie's posts sometimes help me advance along that road. Fellowship,
>> > to me, does not mean we must all be in lockstep.
>> >
>> > David's extreme fundamentalism is also a help. As do others here.
>> > Probably he would objectto the description. I describe it as it
>> > appears to me. It does not impede our fellowship in any way.
>> >
>> > On 9/16/09, David Clounch <david.clounch@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Bernie,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > David said:
>> > > “I'd like to ask if there is any tenet of Christianity you would
>> > > defend
>> > as
>> > > being true? “
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I’m in the state of mind now that I’m against the beliefs of all
>> > ‘revealed
>> > > religions,’ but I think there is some good stuff in there. For
>> > > example,
>> > in
>> > > Christianity, I like the ideas of “the fruit of the spirit” and focus
>> > > on
>> > > emotional maturity.
>> > >
>> > > My response to that is the apostle Paul wrote about how if Jesus
>> > > didn't
>> > rise
>> > > from the dead then faith is all in vain. That certainly would apply
>> > > to
>> > > what you are saying here too. Christianity *is* the messiah. Without
>> > Him
>> > > there isn't any truth in Christianity - it's all a bunch of flowers
>> > > and
>> > > rosey feelings and garbage. A human made religion. So what you are
>> > saying
>> > > is what you like about it is the human made religion part. Thats what
>> > > I
>> > > meant when I referred previously to Churchianity.
>> > > That's watered down Christianity (what CS Lewis calls "Christianity
>> > > and
>> > > water" - the analog of scotch and water). You've been taken for a
>> > > ride
>> > by
>> > > western secular culture Bernie.
>> > >
>> > > I'm going to try to make this my very last response to you. Maybe if
>> > > you
>> > > were to show that you have absorbed some of CS Lewis's works I'd
>> > > change
>> > my
>> > > mind. But I have to cut it off for now.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Burgy
>> >
>> > www.burgy.50megs.com
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with
> "unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message.
>

-- 
Burgy
www.burgy.50megs.com
To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@calvin.edu with
"unsubscribe asa" (no quotes) as the body of the message.