Re: [asa] fellowship in this group

Don't know if I qualify as good company or not; but I didn't think your post
was of any extreme fundamentalist nature, David. I resonate with the Way Lewis
thinks on a lot of things. And while I agree that "lockstep" is not and should
not be a requirement for fellowship, I also think that for a community to have
any meaningful cohesion there will be some non-negotiables. For Christians it
seems to me that Christ is one of those. I'm not sure I agree that we can't
fellowship with non-Christians --I think I/we do. But if somebody is going to
say they are Christian that should mean some certain minimum set of things -
presumably including Jesus Christ. We may be defining "fellowship" in varying
ways here.

--Merv

Quoting David Clounch <david.clounch@gmail.com>:

> I have warm feelings for my fellow Texan. But sadly I am not a
> fundamentalist.
> So I do object to that fundamental misunderstanding.
>
> Perhaps its John's definition of fundamentalist that is the problem here? :)
>
> If agreeing with CS Lewis and the apostle Paul makes one a fundamentalist
> then I guess I'd be in good company.
>
> I still don't understand why we don't have more Muslims here if the point is
> inter-faith discussion instead of intra-faith discussion. I'd like to
> invite my friend Mustafa to the discussion. And maybe some others. Some
> local Minnesota muslims perhaps? Would they be welcome?
>
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> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM, John Burgeson (ASA member) <
> hossradbourne@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > One of the ASA's tenets is "Faith seeking understanding." I find that
> > Bernie's posts sometimes help me advance along that road. Fellowship,
> > to me, does not mean we must all be in lockstep.
> >
> > David's extreme fundamentalism is also a help. As do others here.
> > Probably he would objectto the description. I describe it as it
> > appears to me. It does not impede our fellowship in any way.
> >
> > On 9/16/09, David Clounch <david.clounch@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Bernie,
> > >
> > >
> > > David said:
> > > “I'd like to ask if there is any tenet of Christianity you would defend
> > as
> > > being true? “
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I’m in the state of mind now that I’m against the beliefs of all
> > ‘revealed
> > > religions,’ but I think there is some good stuff in there. For example,
> > in
> > > Christianity, I like the ideas of “the fruit of the spirit” and focus on
> > > emotional maturity.
> > >
> > > My response to that is the apostle Paul wrote about how if Jesus didn't
> > rise
> > > from the dead then faith is all in vain. That certainly would apply to
> > > what you are saying here too. Christianity *is* the messiah. Without
> > Him
> > > there isn't any truth in Christianity - it's all a bunch of flowers and
> > > rosey feelings and garbage. A human made religion. So what you are
> > saying
> > > is what you like about it is the human made religion part. Thats what I
> > > meant when I referred previously to Churchianity.
> > > That's watered down Christianity (what CS Lewis calls "Christianity and
> > > water" - the analog of scotch and water). You've been taken for a ride
> > by
> > > western secular culture Bernie.
> > >
> > > I'm going to try to make this my very last response to you. Maybe if you
> > > were to show that you have absorbed some of CS Lewis's works I'd change
> > my
> > > mind. But I have to cut it off for now.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Burgy
> >
> > www.burgy.50megs.com
> >
>

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Received on Wed Sep 16 17:20:11 2009