Re: [asa] Greg Boyd's Theodicy of Natural Evil

From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Jul 17 2007 - 23:09:18 EDT

I tend to agree with Bob that Boyd's particular rendition of this seems
almost manichean or gnostic -- more like the "good vs. evil" you find in a
Spiderman comic, where evil actually has a chance of winning, than the
Biblical picture. But, like Michael, I do find aspects of it attractive.
I'd agree that there isn't enough in the Bible from which any kind of detail
can be proposed, but the serpent in the Garden does seem to suggest that
there is rebellion in the creation before the human fall; and the Christus
Victor aspect of the atonement tied with the final eschatological defeat of
evil including final defeat of the spiritual forces that oppose God's
kingdom does seem to suggest that the "putting to rights" or "completion"
inherent in the eschaton involves more than just human sin. At least, I
like the idea of being able to say there might be more to this whole picture
than the selective nature of the scriptures fully reveals.

On 7/17/07, Robert Schneider <schneider98@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I also think that this view skirts the edge of gnosticism. If Satan is the
> ultimate author of natural evil, could not Valentinian say, "I could live
> with that."
>
> Bob
>
> On 7/17/07, D. F. Siemens, Jr. <dfsiemensjr@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > My late mother got gap theory at Biola when Dr. Torrey was there. Her
> > take was that evolution took place in however many years were necessary
> > before the gap. I'm guessing that the recreation reproduced the state the
> > earth had come to just before the gap. Now, if they just had physical
> > evidence for a gap.
> > Dave (ASA)
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:39:25 -0400 "Steve Martin" <
> > steven.dale.martin@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >
> > Makes for a simple theodicy much like YEC. (You do need to perform some
> > amazing & dubious hermeneutical slight of hand to pull it off though). I've
> > always thought that someone could try and reconcile the "Gap Theory" and
> > evolution - but I never met anyone who actually articulated it.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> >
> >
>

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