From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Tue Apr 29 2003 - 18:49:47 EDT
The laws against incest seem to me to be intuitively obvious.
Beyond that it seems that you are advising separation of cultures as a necessity. Are you posing this theory as a scientist observing objectively? Or do you support this position philosophically?
I personally believe that the greatest cause of evil between 'nice people' (definition left loose intentionally) is the breaking into camps of 'us' and 'them'. Our society is finally learning some mutual respect. Cultural seclusion tends to lead to misunderstanding which leads to some of the bad results of 'us' and 'them'.
Further, genetically, the advantage seems to be in having a broad gene pool. Inbreeding weakens races, not strengthens them.
Am I correct in interpreting that you are suggesting using the levitical prohibitions to 'protect us against the sins of man?' And that you are advising us to not 'stand fast in the liberty to which ye are called'? Or are you just proposing that society should take a stronger stance in preventing sexual acts, such as incest, which implant weak seed in our midst?
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From: RFaussette@aol.com [mailto:RFaussette@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 7:23 AM
To: deborahjmann@InsightBB.com; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: No death before the fall theology
In a message dated 4/29/03 8:00:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, deborahjmann@InsightBB.com writes:
You're brevity has me confused. What is your point? Why did you object to
Burgy's statement in the first place - specifically? Leviticus is 27
chapters of heavy reading.
Burgy has his own reasons for trashing the levitical prohibitions which have come up in fairly recent threads. I simply point out their obvious utility.
The prohibitions are at 18.
This last e-mail really has me confused. If we don't eat pork and don't
spill our seed and do maintain certain rituals, we will prosper and
replenish the earth?
Are you asking me or telling me?
Do we also need to provide several kinds of burnt offerings and have women
bathe in running water after every menstrual cycle?
If that's what it takes to remind you of the levitical prohibitions and you are serious about maintaining a high birth rate ans superior offspring, while the world outside the ghetto walls is beginning to look like sodom and gomorrah, yes.
“Among the factors facilitating the separation of Jews and gentiles over historical time have been religious practice and beliefs, language and mannerisms, physical appearance and clothing, customs (especially the dietary laws), occupations and living in physically separated areas, which were administered by Jews according to Jewish civil and criminal law… The uniqueness of the Jews lies in their being the only people to successfully remain intact and resist normal assimilative processes after living for very long periods as a minority in other societies.”
That quote's from Kevin MacDonald, one of the authors I suggested you look into.
The intricate rituals maintain social and hence genetic separation. See what is in front of your face. If the levitical prohibitions are invalid, then why is it that the people who maintain them most strictly, with the rituals you descibe, have the highest birth rates in the world and the highest IQs and have been a cohesive people longer than any other? All of those qualities are evolutionarily, reproductively and adaptively sound.
Please, explain yourself.
If you want your family, tribe, nation or race to survive, you consider those prohibitions to avoid being "spewed out" of the land.
rich
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