Re: ID science (subtopic 2)

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Mon Apr 21 2003 - 17:31:44 EDT

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    From: "D. F. Siemens, Jr." <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
    To: <alexanian@uncw.edu>
    Cc: <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>; <hvantill@chartermi.net>;
    <gmurphy@raex.com>; <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:26 PM
    Subject: Re: ID science (subtopic 2)

    >
    > On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:54:08 -0400 "Alexanian, Moorad"
    > <alexanian@uncw.edu> writes:
    > > A purely physical device is one that is purely material and is, for
    > > instance, devoid of life, self-consciousness, and lacks the ability
    > > to
    > > reason. One must distinguish between the data that makes up the
    > > subject
    > > matter of science and the intelligent being that set up the physical
    > > equipment that collects the data and, subsequently, analyzes the
    > > collected data and devolves mathematical models and theories that
    > > correlate a multitude of data.
    > >
    > > Moorad
    > >
    > Moorad,
    > If I take your claim seriously, then a scientist does not look or record.
    > About as simple a mechanical device as I can think of is a meter stick. I
    > have never known one to line itself up and declare the length. We now
    > have recording devices that collect immense amounts of data and analyze
    > it so that the limited human inputs and analytical powers can hope to
    > understand what is going on. But one may look at this as speeding up what
    > used to involve a person eyeballing a galvanometer or cloud chamber--and
    > possibly looking again to be sure of getting the reading right. Do
    > eyeballs fall under "purely physical device"?
    > Dave
    >
    >



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