Re: Fwd: Not just in Kansas, Anymore....

From: Marcio Pie (pie@bu.edu)
Date: Sat Jul 28 2001 - 20:05:56 EDT

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    Dear Hammond,

    Just for the record:
    (1) I did not write the message, I just forwarded it from another mailing
    list.
    (2) I'm afraid I am one of these poor souls who don't have the
    qualifications to grasp the grandeur of your SPOG.
    (3) I'd rather be called Mr. Pie. Or Marcio.

    Marcio

    At 04:56 PM 7/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
    >[Hammond]
    >
    > Ms. Pie's disturbing initiative is just another sign that the
    >Fundamentalists have scented blood in the water and that they
    >sense the impending discovery of a "scientific proof of God".
    > They are absolutely correct about this, and the discovery has already
    >been dubbed the SPOG (scientific proof of God).
    > This discovery proves that, as Ms. Pie put it, "both" Creationism and
    >Evolution are scientifically correct.
    > I have repeatedly warned the scientific community that their continued
    >ignorance of the SPOG is going to result in a public CRUCIFIXION OF SCIENCE
    >when it is learned that the discovery has been known since 1997 and
    >systematically ignored and suppressed by the scientific community:
    >
    >Website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html
    >
    >Sincerely, George Hammond
    >
    >
    >-----------
    >
    >
    >Marcio Pie wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I just got this from another mailing list.
    > >
    > > Marcio
    > >
    > > >Colleagues,
    > > >
    > > >I would like to share with you the leading headline on the front page of
    > > >this morning's Honolulu Star Bulletin:
    > > >
    > > >"BOE [Board of Education] Panel Opens Door to Teaching Creationism"
    > > >
    > > >A version of the article is at:
    > > >
    > > >http://starbulletin.com/2001/07/26/news/indext.html
    > > >
    > > >Click on the "Late Breaking" icon near the top list.
    > > >
    > > >Some of the more disturbing excerpts:
    > > >
    > > >"The move came after board member Denise Matsumoto complained that
    > proposed
    > > >state performance standards for science...presented Charles Darwin's
    > theory
    > > >of evolution as fact rather than opinion."
    > > >
    > > >When board memebr Karen Knudsen asked Matsumoto what she meant when she
    > > >referred to "both" theories of origin:
    > > >
    > > >"Matsumoto replied, 'The other theory is creationism. They're both
    > theories.
    > > >They both have scientific data that go with them."
    > > >
    > > >"'Evolution' is often times confused with 'adaptation,' Matsumoto argued.
    > > >'So many times in our textbooks and our science classes, adaptation gets
    > > >replaced with the word evolution,' she said. 'Adaptation is a change
    > within
    > > >a species to adapt to their survival rather than evolution, which is
    > > >changing from one species to another species such as ape to man. Matsumoto
    > > >suggested that such changes between species are not possible."
    > > >
    > > >When I told my wife (also an evolutionary biologist) about this, she
    > > >responded "Not in my backyard!" We'll be drafting a letter this
    > evening. I
    > > >encourage others on this list to consider doing the same.
    > > >
    > > >Aloha,
    > > >Rich
    > > >
    > > >Richard L. Pyle
    > > >Ichthyology, Bishop Museum
    > > >1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817
    > > >Ph: (808)848-4115, Fax: (808)847-8252
    > > >email: deepreef@bishopmuseum.org
    > > >http://www.bishopmuseum.org/bishop/HBS/pylerichard.html
    > > >"The views expressed are the author's, and not necessarily those of Bishop
    > > >Museum."
    > >
    > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > > Marcio R. Pie
    > > Department of Biology
    > > Boston University
    > > 5 Cummington St.
    > > Boston, MA 02215
    > > Phone: (617) 353-6974
    > > FAX: (617) 353-6340
    >
    >--
    >Be sure to visit my website below, and please ask your
    >news service provider to add alt.sci.proof-of-god
    >-----------------------------------------------------------
    >George Hammond, M.S. Physics
    >Email: ghammond@mediaone.net
    >Website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html
    >-----------------------------------------------------------

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Marcio R. Pie
    Department of Biology
    Boston University
    5 Cummington St.
    Boston, MA 02215
    Phone: (617) 353-6974
    FAX: (617) 353-6340



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