Re: Fwd: Not just in Kansas, Anymore....

From: George Hammond (ghammond@mediaone.net)
Date: Sun Jul 29 2001 - 00:51:25 EDT

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    Marcio Pie wrote:
    >
    > Dear Hammond,
    >
    > Just for the record:
    > (1) I did not write the message, I just forwarded it from another mailing
    > list.

    [Hammond]
    Sorry, my mistake.

    > (2) I'm afraid I am one of these poor souls who don't have the
    > qualifications to grasp the grandeur of your SPOG.

    [Hammond]
    Naturally, Biology has little conection to Divinity,
    or even Ichthyology for that matter.

    > (3) I'd rather be called Mr. Pie. Or Marcio.

    GH: Appologies for the oversight.

    >
    > Marcio
    >
    > At 04:56 PM 7/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > >[Hammond]
    > >
    > > Ms. Pie's disturbing initiative is just another sign that the
    > >Fundamentalists have scented blood in the water and that they
    > >sense the impending discovery of a "scientific proof of God".
    > > They are absolutely correct about this, and the discovery has already
    > >been dubbed the SPOG (scientific proof of God).
    > > This discovery proves that, as Ms. Pie put it, "both" Creationism and
    > >Evolution are scientifically correct.
    > > I have repeatedly warned the scientific community that their continued
    > >ignorance of the SPOG is going to result in a public CRUCIFIXION OF SCIENCE
    > >when it is learned that the discovery has been known since 1997 and
    > >systematically ignored and suppressed by the scientific community:
    > >
    > >Website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/index.html
    > >
    > >Sincerely, George Hammond
    > >
    > >
    > >-----------
    > >
    > >
    > >Marcio Pie wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hi all,
    > > >
    > > > I just got this from another mailing list.
    > > >
    > > > Marcio
    > > >
    > > > >Colleagues,
    > > > >
    > > > >I would like to share with you the leading headline on the front page of
    > > > >this morning's Honolulu Star Bulletin:
    > > > >
    > > > >"BOE [Board of Education] Panel Opens Door to Teaching Creationism"
    > > > >
    > > > >A version of the article is at:
    > > > >
    > > > >http://starbulletin.com/2001/07/26/news/indext.html
    > > > >
    > > > >Click on the "Late Breaking" icon near the top list.
    > > > >
    > > > >Some of the more disturbing excerpts:
    > > > >
    > > > >"The move came after board member Denise Matsumoto complained that
    > > proposed
    > > > >state performance standards for science...presented Charles Darwin's
    > > theory
    > > > >of evolution as fact rather than opinion."
    > > > >
    > > > >When board memebr Karen Knudsen asked Matsumoto what she meant when she
    > > > >referred to "both" theories of origin:
    > > > >
    > > > >"Matsumoto replied, 'The other theory is creationism. They're both
    > > theories.
    > > > >They both have scientific data that go with them."
    > > > >
    > > > >"'Evolution' is often times confused with 'adaptation,' Matsumoto argued.
    > > > >'So many times in our textbooks and our science classes, adaptation gets
    > > > >replaced with the word evolution,' she said. 'Adaptation is a change
    > > within
    > > > >a species to adapt to their survival rather than evolution, which is
    > > > >changing from one species to another species such as ape to man. Matsumoto
    > > > >suggested that such changes between species are not possible."
    > > > >
    > > > >When I told my wife (also an evolutionary biologist) about this, she
    > > > >responded "Not in my backyard!" We'll be drafting a letter this
    > > evening. I
    > > > >encourage others on this list to consider doing the same.
    > > > >
    > > > >Aloha,
    > > > >Rich
    > > > >
    > > > >Richard L. Pyle
    > > > >Ichthyology, Bishop Museum
    > > > >1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817
    > > > >Ph: (808)848-4115, Fax: (808)847-8252
    > > > >email: deepreef@bishopmuseum.org
    > > > >http://www.bishopmuseum.org/bishop/HBS/pylerichard.html
    > > > >"The views expressed are the author's, and not necessarily those of Bishop
    > > > >Museum."
    > > >
    > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > > > Marcio R. Pie
    > > > Department of Biology
    > > > Boston University
    > > > 5 Cummington St.
    > > > Boston, MA 02215
    > > > Phone: (617) 353-6974
    > > > FAX: (617) 353-6340

    > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > Marcio R. Pie
    > Department of Biology
    > Boston University
    > 5 Cummington St.
    > Boston, MA 02215
    > Phone: (617) 353-6974
    > FAX: (617) 353-6340

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