At 01:07 PM 2/19/00 -0500, George Andrews wrote:
>>>Time is an epiphnomena of physical reality whose perceived forwardness
is a consequence of the second law. To posit "time" - as we have come to
understand it - before creation (as Glenn seems to want to do) would
necessitate "something" is changing "somewhere" - be it God or whatever.
But herein is my point: "something" and "somewhere" are physical notions
not applicable to any concepts of pre-primordial reality (what ever that
may be!).<<<
As Charlie Brown says: 'AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH' I just love the way some people
around here read what they want to hear rather than what is actually
written and discussed.
NO WHERE HAVE I SAID THAT ACTUAL TIME EXISTED BEFORE TIME. GET THIS
STRAIGHT!!!!!
What I have said is that if you want to describe any of God's pre-temporal
activities, our language requires a use of temporal terms. We are simply
stuck with it. Thus, what I advocate is NOT TIME BEFORE TIME but that
Genesis 1 is a feeble attempt to describe what is indescribable, the
activities of God prior to when there was time.
Please, George, at the very least understand what I am saying rather than
what you want me to be saying!!!!!!
Is this clear?
Now, if you are saying that God didn't exist before time was created at the
Big Bang that is another thing. Do you beleive God didn't exist prior to
the Big Bang when time was created?
NOTE HERE THAT I SAID THAT TIME WAS CREATED AT THE BIG BANG--THUS I DON'T
BELIEVE IN TIME BEFORE TIME!!!!!
glenn
Foundation, Fall and Flood
Adam, Apes and Anthropology
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