> "Intervene" literally means
>"coming in between". An example in human history would be God's
>intervention in the supernatural call to Abraham, . . .
OK, but he can do it without resorting to miracles/magic
>Second, it is begging the question to say that God's intervention is
>necessarily to "suspend or countermand the physical constants and
>relationships". God could have *planned* to intervene further down the
>track when things were ready.
OK, but does he need to do miracles/magic to complete his plan?
>Third, "magic tricks" are either false or occult miracles. God's
miracles by
>definition are the real thing.
In other words, miracles are magic that God does and magic is miracles
that bad guys do.
>So I ask Bill again, if he "rules out God intervening at strategic
points in
>natural history? For example, the origin of life, the origin of new
designs,
>the origin of humans?"
No. but God does not need to do magic/miracles.
>So what? The view that "Darwinism, as well as creationism, are
>metaphysical systems" is itself grounded in a metaphysical system. We
can't
>avoid metaphysical systems. The question then is, is it a *true*
>metaphysical system?
No way to tell. Propose a test. If there was evidence - data - one way
or the other it would no longer be a metaphysical problem but a science
problem.
>"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny ? Yet not one of them will fall
to
>the ground apart from the will of your Father." (Mt 10:29).
One of the most discouraging verses in the Bible. The birds continue to
fall. People get shoved into gas chambers, God knows it all. Nothing
changes.
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