Me:
>Back on Jan 30, I posted a long reply to Chris exploring this, as even
>he has suggested ways to distinguish the two. Of course, this cannot
>be done in science because that would violate its own ground rules.
>
>Look at it this way. If you think you cannot distinguish a non-intelligent
>cause from an intelligent cause, on what basis do you attribute things
>to non-intelligent causes? Clearly, it must be an issue of pure
>metaphysics.
Susan:
>As delightful as I find Chris I have a bit of trouble wading through his
>posts. Much of what he talks about (espcially when he gets going on
>philosophy) zooms over my head.
>Nevertheless, you slid off the question again. Science is supposed to
>recognize intelligent design and be able to distinguish it from evolution.
>You, Johnson, et al. have harped on this continually. Those mean ole
>scientists won't do that! Bias! Atheism! What I want to know, is HOW. You
>seem to think there's a way.
If you really wanted to know HOW, you'd bother to read what I have
contributed to this list. Face it, Susan, as an atheist you are incapable
of approaching this topic with an open and fair mind. Those without bias
would not be playing these games.
Me:
> You enlighten me about the evidence behind the belief that
>it evolved by changing gene frequencies and then I'll see if there are
>some features that are better attributed to ID. It's time to practice what
>you preach and persuade. You have to persuade using evidence and
>logic. I haven't seen much of that.
Susan:
>Sorry, I'm no molecular biologist. I did a search on Medline
>(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed ) for "ubiquitin,
>evolution of" and it gave me 102 documents including this one:
>"Structure and evolution of genes encoding polyubiquitin in marine
>sponges." Gamulin V, Lukic L, Department of Molecular Genetics, Rudjer
>Boskovic Institute, Zagreb, Croatia.
One problem. This protein predates sponges by at least half a billion years.
Try again.
Mike
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