I don't think how evolution happened is understood in its entirety at all.
Natural selection alone isn't enough, looking at many IC systems.
>design isn't incredible. There's just no way to tell if you are >seeing it
>or not.
Design IS incredible, but I agree with that 2nd sentence.
>Therefore it's outside of what science does.
So why do scientists assert quite the opposite philosophy and claim
everything is NOT designed?
>"Not a single word, sentence, or comma may be added or subtracted >from the
>Bible. It is utterly static."
But those who believe the Bible may examine their interpretations of verses,
chapters, etc. and so religions based on the Bible change. The numbers
obtained from science don't change, the explanations behind the gathered
data change.
>you are going to have to substantiate that claim. I was unaware that
>creationists had any undisputed evidence. What are you referring to?
undisputed either. Again, differentiate between raw data and the
interpretation on both sides. I think we're getting into that recurrent
problem of definitions. :) We need to define evidence before we accuse
anyone of not having any.
>oh, heavens, I think Dawkins is an idiot because he tries to "prove"
>atheism by using evolution. Some people's idiocy has no effect on the
> >facts one way or another.
Out of curiosity: are you an atheist? If no, which philosophy would you
associate yourself with?
>bitterness between you and me? (I hadn't seen that) or bitterness >between
>creationists and evolutionists? If the latter, I think it's >because (a)
>the creationists have done nothing but lose ground over >the last 150 years
>and they *really* don't like that and (b) the >people for the evolutionist
>side are hobbyists.
or (c) NEITHER side wishes to learn they're wrong about even some of their
ideals on how the earth got to be the way it is or maybe (d) it's human
nature to dig yourself in behind your viewpoints and resist change.
(oh yeah, in case anyone worries about it, there are lots of 'clip's that
should be thrown in)
Jason
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