Randy: To establish the point for which I am arguing the width of the range is
unimportant. However broad or narrow the range happens to be for any
particular form of life these forms of life cannot, by definition, exist
outside these values. That factor is what determines the boundaries for
the ranges.
For that specific kind of life form
Pim:2) we do not understand if life outside this range is possible,
Randy: But we do, that is the definition of the range in the ID argument. Let
me restate my earlier argument this way with an additional qualifier:
Randy: In a universe with no oxygen it is impossible for life that can only
breathe oxygen to begin and then develop an adaptation to the lack of
oxygen in the universe.
Of course that is a given but what about other life forms which do not rely on oxygen ?
Randy: Let me close with this-I agree that the ID argument must deal with
the possibilities of life forms besides carbon-based ones.
That's for sure.
Randy: But whatever form of life we wish to discuss must be compatible with the physical
constants in the universe in which it forms. Life has no opportunity to live where it, by definition, CANNOt live until it develops an adaption to the factors that have already killed it.
True but that was not my argument. My argument is that we do not know what life forms are possible and that the apparant fine-tuning might merely point to the fact that exactly this life form is the one that could evolve. So the fine tuning has killed off all other possibilities. But that does not show design.