Re: New Flood data

Ron Chitwood (chitw@flash.net)
Mon, 23 Feb 1998 07:52:21 -0600

>>> We have not had a lot of time to
>evolve fruitflies even by evolutionary standards. <<<
>
Sometimes, Glenn, I think your the king of non-sequitirs. I have no
argument with your math, but since macro-evolution has never been seen and
observed you cannot say whether it took a long time or a short time. Its
like saying one can determine whether a horse can fly fast or slow.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
and do not rely on your own insight.. Pr. 3:5
Ron Chitwood
chitw@flash.net

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> From: Glenn Morton <grmorton@waymark.net>
> To: Ron Chitwood <chitw@flash.net>; evolution@calvin.edu; Bill Hamilton
<hamilton@predator.cs.gmr.com>
> Subject: Re: New Flood data
> Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 1:12 PM
>
> At 10:45 AM 2/21/98 -0600, Ron Chitwood wrote:
> >>>>83 x 52=4316 generations of fruitflies compared to 5 in humans. How
long
> >ago is 4316 generations in human terms? Oh, about 77,000 years. And if
you
> >will look at what anthropologists say, Homo sapiens has been on the
earth
> >for 120,000 years, some say 200,000. We have not had a lot of time to
> >evolve fruitflies even by evolutionary standards. <<<
> >
> >Speculation, Glenn, speculation.
> >
> Hmmm...looked like mathematics to me but then I guess math means nothing.

> Should I dare label your response as
>
> Solipsism, Ron, solipsism.
>
>
> >>>No progressive mutations have appeared in fruitflies to date.>>
> >
> >Fact, Glenn, Fact.
> >
> >>>So are you suggesting that there should be no interpretation? We all
> >just
> >> sit and stare at the fossils with no one saying a word? What do you
> >want?
> >> Someone needs to raise the obvious question "What do the fossils
mean?"<<
> >
> >Interpretation can abound until the cows come home, as far as I'm
> >concerned. The problem arises when its treated as fact and spoken as if
> >its ex-cathedra from the Pope. If people want to believe a frog turned
> >into a prince by the magic kiss of time, fine.
>
> You should reference Gish when you use his material.
>
>
> >By the way, thanks much for the math. I'll use it in the appropriate
> >sermon
>
> I thought you said it was speculation. Are your sermons full of
speculations?
>
> glenn
>
> Adam, Apes, and Anthropology: Finding the Soul of Fossil Man
>
> and
>
> Foundation, Fall and Flood
> http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm
>