Re: After Their Kind (was Basilosaurus)

Glenn Morton (grmorton@gnn.com)
Wed, 08 Jan 1997 19:54:00

>Glenn, I think we've gone as far as we can go on this textual discussion.
>However, you do have to be publicly slapped for this:
>
><<Jim, you have forgotten what we were discussing. We were discussing what
>the Bible says, not what type of offspring you and I have spawned. Please
> get
>back to the issue.>>
>
>But YOU were the one who wrote:
>
>>If the preacher at your wedding had been
>>crass enough to have said, "Let Jim
>>and ___(enter your wife's name)___ multiply in the earth" Would you have
>>thought that this meant that you and your wife were to turn out little
> clones
>
>>of yourselves? Of course not. Why do we think that it means birds must turn
>>out clones of themselves?
>
>Glenn, you simply can't raise something, then say it's "off the issue." You
>raised an odd notion that having offspring is somehow the same as exact
>cloning. You ignored the rest of the post, which is simply this: all species
>we observe give birth to their own kind. That WAS the issue!
>
That was an illustration in the pattern of what the Scripture says which is a
perfectly allowable technique for figuring out what the meaning is. Look up
Ludwig Wittgenstein's Blue and Brown books.

>So when God said let the fowl multiply, he was NOT saying let the lizards
>multiply, or the fish, or the humans. He said FOWL. If that is not an
>implication of fixity, nothing is.
>
>It is certainly NOT an implication for evolution or change.You will not find
>any text that implies this. This is a major scriptural problem for evolution,
>which must come in the back door, so to speak.
>

Lets try this another way. God said let the FOWL multiply. Fine. I don't
agree with your interp here.(I am not sure I understand it) But assuming you
are right, God told the FOWL to multiply and therefore they are fixed. He did
not tell, as you note, the lizards, fish, or humans to multiply. Therefore
they can evolve!!!

No evolution for birds evolution for everyone else. :-)
>Here I need to point out, as I have not done enough in the past, that Glenn's
>imagination, tenacity and plain hard work on these issues is a good example
>for everyone. He has definitely made me work harder at my apologetics,made me
>think, made me go to the library,made me buy books (for this, he owes me some
>money).

Sue me!

I needle him, and he needles me, but he's a smart fellow (except for
>his choice of state to live in). For you efforts, Glenn, you are to be
>commended.

Thank you to. I also am forced to work harder.

glenn

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