Re: [asa] health care

Hi Jack,

"Discussions on how health care is delievered is interesting, but more
political than moral or scientific. But there is no question that resources
used in providing health care are limited. I would like to see a
discussion on who deserves to get what and at what time, and who decides
this?"

If the discussion is about who deserves to get what and at what time, and
who decides
this, it is necessarily a political discussion. Science cannot answer these
questions.

And since we live in cultures where moral assumptions and positions are not
universally

shared, there is nothing left but politics.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <drsyme@verizon.net>
To: "Terry M. Gray" <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu>;
"AmericanScientificAffiliation" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [asa] health care

> If you want to have a discussion on this topic that is relevant to our
> purpose here why dont we discuss the issue of what amount of health care
> is
> everyone entiltled too?
>
> Discussions on how health care is delievered is interesting, but more
> political than moral or scientific. But there is no question that
> resources
> used in providing health care are limited. I would like to see a
> discussion on who deserves to get what and at what time, and who decides
> this?
>
> To give a more specific example, we spend an inordinate amount of money in
> the last month of a persons life. Is this the best way, most efficient
> way,
> the fairest way to distribute health care?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry M. Gray" <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu>
> To: "AmericanScientificAffiliation" <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] health care
>
>
>> Not even close.....
>>
>> But we're a patient lot here. Most of the responses heretofore are proof
>> that it's "off topic". But if we can control ourselves and connect it
>> with faith/science matters (and we're not talking faith OR science here)
>> then we can keep talking.
>>
>> TG
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jack wrote:
>>
>>> This thread is not even close to being on topic is it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sep 24, 2009 05:39:07 PM, michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
>>> Thank goodness we have the National Health Service for all its faults.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Burgeson (ASA member)" <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
>>> To: "asa" <asa@calvin.edu>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:50 PM
>>> Subject: [asa] health care
>>>
>>>
>>> > In eight US states and Washington, D.C., insurance companies are
>>> > legally allowed to deny health insurance coverage to victims of
>>> > domestic abuse, treating it essentially, if not literally, as a
>>> > pre-existing condition.
>>> >
>>> > Which is one practice of the insurance companies I hope will be
>>> stopped
>>> >
>>> > Great short clip about Health Care Reform!
>>> >
>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwRAIdVdVS4&feature=related
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Burgy
>>> >
>>> > www.burgy.50megs.com
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