Re: [asa] Thoughts on the new president

I must confess I thought B.O. was a purely British acronym for "Body
Odour". So it seems it also stands for "Body Odor" ;-)

My apologies.

How about BOb as an alternative to BHO?

Iain

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:41 PM, John Burgeson (ASA member)
<hossradbourne@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have to ask where you've been, friend George. Those initials are not
> new to the "cause" of the yahoos among us. (I know -- I spend far too
> much time listening to some of them).
>
> I agree with "BHO" as a necessary curative.
>
> On 1/22/09, gmurphy10@neo.rr.com <gmurphy10@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> It hadn't struck me before but the initials BO could be fodder for
>> anti-Obama jokes. Maybe we should go with BHO if we need an abbreviation.
>> (I'm not suggesting that Iain had any maleficient intent!)
>>
>> Shalom,
>> George
>>
>>
>> ---- Iain Strachan <igd.strachan@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think the phrase you are objecting to is just a bit of journalistic
>>> writing. It is more interesting to see it in the context:
>>>
>>> Most of all, he feels
>>> deep in his heart that our problems can never be solved, let alone to
>>> the full satisfaction of all, by harping on our acute differences and
>>> rubbing in ad nauseam our past mutual hurts, but only by looking into
>>> the future, holding hands together as dedicated citizens of the nation
>>> and of the world
>>>
>>> From my listening to Obama's speeches (I've heard the one he gave
>>> exactly a year ago at the MLK church, and the inaugural speech), this
>>> certainly seems to be a recurring Obama theme - that we should
>>> concentrate on what we have in common to work together, rather than
>>> fighting over differences. Since it recurs so often it would seem
>>> reasonable to say that at the very least it is something he feels
>>> passionately about.
>>>
>>> I noticed, for example from the inaugural speech, that BO acknowledged
>>> the role of non-believers (is this a first?) in saying something like
>>> "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims and Jews and Hindus - and
>>> non-believers" - the implication being that all had something to
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> Maybe that's a bit wishy-washy for some? But I rather liked the
>>> intent to try and avoid the war between science and religion,
>>> believers and non-believers, and start working together.
>>>
>>> Iain
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Nucacids <nucacids@wowway.com> wrote:
>>> > Let's not abandon critical thinking. For example, Raman writes, "Most
>>> > of
>>> > all, he feels deep in his heart.." How does Raman know what Obama
>>> > feels
>>> > "deep in his heart?" From the way he speaks, one gets the impression
>>> > that
>>> > Raman is a close friend of Obama. Is this true?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Strachan"
>>> > <igd.strachan@gmail.com>
>>> > To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:20 AM
>>> > Subject: [asa] Thoughts on the new president
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> >From "Science and Religion Today":
>>> >>
>>> >> "From all that we have seen and heard and read, Obama is a man of
>>> >> unusual intelligence, insight, and vision. He is a rare combination of
>>> >> idealism and activism, a politician and citizen who considers himself
>>> >> an American first and foremost, rather than an individual with a
>>> >> hyphenated nationality and subgroup loyalties. He is, in the tradition
>>> >> of the country, a man of faith, but also enlightened enough to respect
>>> >> those who find fulfillment beyond his own pews, or in no traditional
>>> >> religion at all. He has his own convictions about traditional
>>> >> morality, but respects those of others in so far as they don't perturb
>>> >> the personal lives of their fellow citizens. Most of all, he feels
>>> >> deep in his heart that our problems can never be solved, let alone to
>>> >> the full satisfaction of all, by harping on our acute differences and
>>> >> rubbing in ad nauseam our past mutual hurts, but only by looking into
>>> >> the future, holding hands together as dedicated citizens of the nation
>>> >> and of the world," says V.V. Raman, an emeritus professor of physics
>>> >> and humanities at the Rochester Institute of Technology, in a note to
>>> >> Science & Religion Today.
>>> >> "Obama is acutely aware of the dangers lurking in the environment as a
>>> >> result of unbridled industrial excesses, and he trusts scientifically
>>> >> informed advisers to recommend steps to curb and eliminate these
>>> >> dangers. He respects science and science education in our schools,
>>> >> relegating visions of a Creator God to places of worship and tradition
>>> >> rather than to biology classes."
>>> >>
>>> >> (Please note: I am from the UK and don't have a political axe to
>>> >> grind, but I thought these observations were encouraging).
>>> >>
>>> >> Iain
>>> >>
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