Re: [asa] Thoughts on the new president

Have to ask where you've been, friend George. Those initials are not
new to the "cause" of the yahoos among us. (I know -- I spend far too
much time listening to some of them).

I agree with "BHO" as a necessary curative.

On 1/22/09, gmurphy10@neo.rr.com <gmurphy10@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> It hadn't struck me before but the initials BO could be fodder for
> anti-Obama jokes. Maybe we should go with BHO if we need an abbreviation.
> (I'm not suggesting that Iain had any maleficient intent!)
>
> Shalom,
> George
>
>
> ---- Iain Strachan <igd.strachan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the phrase you are objecting to is just a bit of journalistic
>> writing. It is more interesting to see it in the context:
>>
>> Most of all, he feels
>> deep in his heart that our problems can never be solved, let alone to
>> the full satisfaction of all, by harping on our acute differences and
>> rubbing in ad nauseam our past mutual hurts, but only by looking into
>> the future, holding hands together as dedicated citizens of the nation
>> and of the world
>>
>> From my listening to Obama's speeches (I've heard the one he gave
>> exactly a year ago at the MLK church, and the inaugural speech), this
>> certainly seems to be a recurring Obama theme - that we should
>> concentrate on what we have in common to work together, rather than
>> fighting over differences. Since it recurs so often it would seem
>> reasonable to say that at the very least it is something he feels
>> passionately about.
>>
>> I noticed, for example from the inaugural speech, that BO acknowledged
>> the role of non-believers (is this a first?) in saying something like
>> "We are a nation of Christians and Muslims and Jews and Hindus - and
>> non-believers" - the implication being that all had something to
>> offer.
>>
>> Maybe that's a bit wishy-washy for some? But I rather liked the
>> intent to try and avoid the war between science and religion,
>> believers and non-believers, and start working together.
>>
>> Iain
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Nucacids <nucacids@wowway.com> wrote:
>> > Let's not abandon critical thinking. For example, Raman writes, "Most
>> > of
>> > all, he feels deep in his heart.." How does Raman know what Obama
>> > feels
>> > "deep in his heart?" From the way he speaks, one gets the impression
>> > that
>> > Raman is a close friend of Obama. Is this true?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Strachan"
>> > <igd.strachan@gmail.com>
>> > To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:20 AM
>> > Subject: [asa] Thoughts on the new president
>> >
>> >
>> >> >From "Science and Religion Today":
>> >>
>> >> "From all that we have seen and heard and read, Obama is a man of
>> >> unusual intelligence, insight, and vision. He is a rare combination of
>> >> idealism and activism, a politician and citizen who considers himself
>> >> an American first and foremost, rather than an individual with a
>> >> hyphenated nationality and subgroup loyalties. He is, in the tradition
>> >> of the country, a man of faith, but also enlightened enough to respect
>> >> those who find fulfillment beyond his own pews, or in no traditional
>> >> religion at all. He has his own convictions about traditional
>> >> morality, but respects those of others in so far as they don't perturb
>> >> the personal lives of their fellow citizens. Most of all, he feels
>> >> deep in his heart that our problems can never be solved, let alone to
>> >> the full satisfaction of all, by harping on our acute differences and
>> >> rubbing in ad nauseam our past mutual hurts, but only by looking into
>> >> the future, holding hands together as dedicated citizens of the nation
>> >> and of the world," says V.V. Raman, an emeritus professor of physics
>> >> and humanities at the Rochester Institute of Technology, in a note to
>> >> Science & Religion Today.
>> >> "Obama is acutely aware of the dangers lurking in the environment as a
>> >> result of unbridled industrial excesses, and he trusts scientifically
>> >> informed advisers to recommend steps to curb and eliminate these
>> >> dangers. He respects science and science education in our schools,
>> >> relegating visions of a Creator God to places of worship and tradition
>> >> rather than to biology classes."
>> >>
>> >> (Please note: I am from the UK and don't have a political axe to
>> >> grind, but I thought these observations were encouraging).
>> >>
>> >> Iain
>> >>
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