Re: [asa] MLK day

Perhaps so, but Bernie, these do "preach". That is to say that they may
indeed be unsatisfying in their lack of specificity or
oversimplification to a science-oriented frame of mind. Nonetheless,
this language does communicate that there are several kinds of
significant and complementary differences to an audience that is less or
differently academically prepared. This is the more anecdotal or
plausibility case-making that has a power to persuade where the
languages of science and logic fail to communicate (which might
arguably be the case for most people). The YEC folks have become quite
good at this. The yeh-but crowd (like us) essentially lacks the skills
or inclination to make this sort of argument/explanation.

JimA [Friend of ASA]

Dehler, Bernie wrote:
> Seems to me that the science/religion quote from MLK is way too simplified, to the point of sentimental nonsense.
>
> For example:
> "Science investigates; religion interprets."
>
> Does this mean science doesn't "interpret?"
>
> For example:
> "Science gives humankind knowledge which is power; religion gives humankind wisdom which is control."
>
> Are power and control supposed to be opposite things? Doesn't religion (a relationship with Jesus and receiving the Holy Spirit) give one "power?" Obviously.
>
> For example:
> "Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values."
>
> This means religion doesn't deal with facts?
>
> Sorry- looks like uneducated nonsense to me.
>
> I applaud MLK for what he accomplished in civil rights- but these statements look like nonsense and are indefensible.
>
> ...Bernie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Keith Miller
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:43 PM
> To: AmericanScientificAffiliation Affiliation
> Subject: [asa] MLK day
>
> All:
>
> This quotation was posted on another listserve. I thought it very
> insightful and appropriate for remembering MLK this week.
>
> Keith
>
>
> "Softmindedness often invades religion. ... Softminded persons have
> revised the Beautitudes to read "Blessed are the pure in ignorance:
> for
> they shall see God." This has led to a widespread belief that there is
> a conflict between science and religion. But this is not true. There
> may be a conflict between softminded religionists and toughminded
> scientists, but not between science and religion. ... Science
> investigates; religion interprets. Science gives humankind knowledge
> which is power; religion gives humankind wisdom which is control.
> Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values.
> The
> two are not rivals. They are complementary."
>
> Strength to Love, 1963
> Martin Luther King, Jr
>
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