RE: [asa] Advice for conversing with YECs

If you are not feeble-minded, would you kindly read the papers that appear in my CV http://origins.swau.edu/who/moorad/cmoorad98.html <http://origins.swau.edu/who/moorad/cmoorad98.html> . After you do that, you will have to shut your face and prove that you are nothing perhaps but a two-bit scientist, if not a two-bit charlatan.

 
Moorad

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From: Michael Roberts [mailto:michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk]
Sent: Sat 10/25/2008 3:03 AM
To: Alexanian, Moorad; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] Advice for conversing with YECs

I refer to the website of the Earth History Research Center.

I rest my case

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>; "George Cooper"
<georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: [asa] Advice for conversing with YECs

Michael, show me anything I have written or said that agrees with your
statement that I am a YEC. You will find none. That is your problem; you
assume erroneously and so conclude foolishly.

Moorad

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of Michael Roberts
Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 6:23 PM
To: George Cooper; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] Advice for conversing with YECs

As Moorad is a YEc he is hardly liable to see YEC as a stumbling block -
which of course it is.

I like your land of Silly but the main road out leads to the slough of
despond (and doubt)

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Cooper" <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: RE: [asa] Advice for conversing with YECs

> Moorad said," I am not sure what are you trying to convince this gentleman
> of. Is there an obstacle for this gentleman to seek God's kingdom and His
> righteousness, which you are trying to remove?"
>
> Your focus is wise, but I struggle with this issue.
>
> In this case, it seems that Dennis' friends are the ones trying to
> convince
> him, since he said he is the rod (not the lightning). Yes, there is an
> obstacle. The issue is not some sidebar to the Roman Road, such as the age
> of the Earth, it is how far Christians (mostly "good" ones, too) are
> willing
> to push the Bible into the land of Silly. The sillier people make Genesis
> look, the sillier the Bible looks, and the sillier our faith appears to
> unbelievers. If the Bible is unreasonable or irrational, then we have a
> problem.
>
> "Coope"
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>
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of Dennis Venema
> Sent: Fri 10/24/2008 5:00 PM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: [asa] Advice for conversing with YECs
>
>
> I seem to be something of a lightning rod for YECs in my local church
> sphere. At present I am discussing these issues with a gentleman from my
> congregation, but I am not making much progress in having him try to
> understand my point of view. We can't even get past the age-of-the-earth
> issue. He is not interested in looking at any evidence, either.
>
> I am interested in what advice folks might have - I am especially
> interested
> in hearing from those of you who used to be YECs but now accept an old
> earth. What was useful to you as you made the transition?
>
> Thanks, all.
>
> Dennis
>
>
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