RE: [asa] EU proposed regulation of creationism and ID

Seriously!
 
Moorad

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Sent: Sat 9/22/2007 9:34 PM
To: Alexanian, Moorad; Rich Blinne; Michael Roberts; John Walley; Don Nield; George Murphy; James Mahaffy; AmericanScientificAffiliation
Subject: Re: [asa] EU proposed regulation of creationism and ID

Seriously?

On 9/22/07, Alexanian, Moorad <alexanian@uncw.edu> wrote:
> Why is intelligence necessary in order to understand the working of Nature?
> How come rationality in the workings of Nature? What is the origin of
> rationality? If evolutionary theory tells how we came to be, why is it that
> it cannot tell us who and what we are?
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> Moorad
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> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of Rich Blinne
> Sent: Sat 9/22/2007 9:32 AM
> To: Michael Roberts
> Cc: John Walley; 'Don Nield'; 'George Murphy'; 'James Mahaffy';
> 'AmericanScientificAffiliation'
> Subject: Re: [asa] EU proposed regulation of creationism and ID
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> On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:14 AM, Michael Roberts wrote:
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> Before we berate anyone else, we need to see just what damage has been done
> to the Christian cause by the rantings of the YEC and ID crowd. It is no
> wonder that anti-Christian hostility has increased.
>
> When you consider the bad science, misrepresentation and the rest of it,
> the Dawkins crowd do have a point. Yet we are supposed to treat of Christian
> brothers and sisters who engage in such dishonesty as if they were good
> loyal followers of Jesus.
>
> So long as we ignore their bad behaviour the problem will continue.
>
> further it is difficult to keep discussions on an even keel because many
> cant distinguish between YEC and ID rubbish and carefully thought out work
> by Christian scientists, thus Collins is seen to be as loopy as Morris and
> O'Leary
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> You see how YEC and ID has made it difficult to distinguish the two groups
> in the document in question:
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> 7. From [Darwin] on, there were two camps that faced one another: those who
> were convinced that Darwin had to be opposed in order to defend Christian
> theology and those who thought that the theory of natural selection would
> enable humankind to put an end once and for all to the theoretical
> foundations of "religious obscurantism".
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> Despite the historical error above, the document does make an effort not to
> fall into the warfare model trap:
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> 13. All leading representatives of the main monotheistic religions
> have adopted a much more moderate attitude [towards evolution]. Pope
> Benedict XVI, for example, as his predecessor Pope John-Paul II, today
> praises the role of the sciences in the evolution of humanity and recognises
> that the theory of evolution is "more than a hypothesis".
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