RE: [asa] EU proposed regulation of creationism and ID

Why is intelligence necessary in order to understand the working of Nature? How come rationality in the workings of Nature? What is the origin of rationality? If evolutionary theory tells how we came to be, why is it that it cannot tell us who and what we are?

 
Moorad

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of Rich Blinne
Sent: Sat 9/22/2007 9:32 AM
To: Michael Roberts
Cc: John Walley; 'Don Nield'; 'George Murphy'; 'James Mahaffy'; 'AmericanScientificAffiliation'
Subject: Re: [asa] EU proposed regulation of creationism and ID

On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:14 AM, Michael Roberts wrote:

        Before we berate anyone else, we need to see just what damage has been done to the Christian cause by the rantings of the YEC and ID crowd. It is no wonder that anti-Christian hostility has increased.

        When you consider the bad science, misrepresentation and the rest of it, the Dawkins crowd do have a point. Yet we are supposed to treat of Christian brothers and sisters who engage in such dishonesty as if they were good loyal followers of Jesus.

        So long as we ignore their bad behaviour the problem will continue.

        further it is difficult to keep discussions on an even keel because many cant distinguish between YEC and ID rubbish and carefully thought out work by Christian scientists, thus Collins is seen to be as loopy as Morris and O'Leary

You see how YEC and ID has made it difficult to distinguish the two groups in the document in question:

        7. From [Darwin] on, there were two camps that faced one another: those who were convinced that Darwin had to be opposed in order to defend Christian theology and those who thought that the theory of natural selection would enable humankind to put an end once and for all to the theoretical foundations of "religious obscurantism".

Despite the historical error above, the document does make an effort not to fall into the warfare model trap:

        13. All leading representatives of the main monotheistic religions have adopted a much more moderate attitude [towards evolution]. Pope Benedict XVI, for example, as his predecessor Pope John-Paul II, today praises the role of the sciences in the evolution of humanity and recognises that the theory of evolution is "more than a hypothesis".

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