Re: [asa] the Way Science Works/

It is not as simiple as that.

First of all, I am not against the vaccine, like I said before, it will save lives. I am against it being mandatory. I am also against they typical right wing response which goes something to the effect of "it is only sexually transmitted, and we want to preach abstinence". Because for one thing, like you said, you can get it from the "nice boy next door" that you married, or after rape; but another thing to remember is that hepatitis B is only transmitted through illicit behavior (mostly sexual behavior) and this is already mandatory, so that camel is already under the tent, so to speak.

Secondly, I dont know about you, but when thousands of dollars in contributions are made into a politicians fund, the day before he does something like this, and the other little coincidence is that the lead lobbyist for Merck happens to be Perry's former Chief of Staff, I get suspicious! But maybe I am more cynical than you.

I am also not a lawyer, but a quid pro quo," I will give you 5k if you enact this executive order", sure sounds illegal to me, albeit hard to prove. But I think David O said something about if it stinks like a fish...?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Carol or John Burgeson
  To: asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [asa] the Way Science Works/

  Jack posted, in part:

  "But Perry is not correct on this issue. If for no other reason than that the executive branch does not make laws. Executive orders are unconstitutional. "

  I'm no lawyer, but my reading indicates that this may not be entirely true. All three branches of the US gov't make laws of course. One may argue that doing so is bad -- but such do happen. Teddy Roosevelt had some good words to say on that subject, BTW. See the review of THEODORE REX at www.burgy.50megs.com/rex.htm.

  Jack also said: "You are also ignorning that Perry was highly influenced by drug money from Merck. This is not a good way to legislate."

  Being a good way from the sorry state of Texas in the Colorado mountains, I have not followed the case closely. While I agree with your second sentence above, your first is another slur. "drug money from Merck" is a pejorative. It seems clear that Merck did lobby for the policy. The last time I looked this was not illegal. We all lobby for the causes we think worth having. Merck just had more resources to do this than you or I. Perhaps something unethical or illegal (not necessarily the same thing) went on. I don't know that.

  Jack also wrote: "And personal abstinence does in fact prevent cervical cancer caused by HPV, however, it only takes one exposure to give one a chance of contracting it."

  True, but irrelevant. Women get raped sometimes, make bad decisions in their choices of mates, or even marry the nice boy next door who one time made a bad decision. Perry's action was designed to save lives. Its as simple as that.

  Cheers.

  Burgy

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