RE: [asa] the Way Science Works/

I thought the policy was that private messages stay private? Jack, I emailed
you offlist in reply to your telling me I was "biased" against clinicians
(which is of course nonsense) and in there I said I didn't know about the
HPV vaccination issue and I also wish you would keep private messages
private or um moderator?

FYI I don't agree with Perry's decision but forgive me for not reading the
newspaper. I keep up on CNN but the Houston Chronicle, nope sorry. I can't
get involved in every single issue. My kids are in private school and I am
in complete agreement that forced vaccinations are wrong in this case. But
why do you harangue me anyway?

Off to a fun weekend with many close friends. Hope everyone is as surrounded
by love and light and laughter!

Peace, Wendee

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From: Jack [mailto:drsyme@cablespeed.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:08 AM
To: WENDEE HOLTCAMP; 'Randy Isaac'; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] the Way Science Works/

Yes, and keeping our children safe from misled, perhaps unduly influenced
executives like Perry who tried to force HPV on our daughters, but this is
an issue you claim you know nothing about, even though this was happening in
your state.

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From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP <mailto:wholtcamp@comcast.net>

To: 'Randy <mailto:randyisaac@comcast.net> Isaac' ; asa@calvin.edu

Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 1:23 AM

Subject: RE: [asa] the Way Science Works/

Not to me, creation as a process indicates evolution to me, not design. How
can we surmise or guess what God did before he began creation? That just
seems presumptuous. Science indicates evolution not design. So that's what
I'll stick to until the weight of evidence changes.

I think the masses of people should not be concerned about this issue of ID.
Why do Christians care? I don't get it. Either they want to defeat
evolution, which is an agenda, or they think it's actually correct but
really don't we Christians have more important duties such as taking care of
the poor, spreading the good news, and many other things Jesus called us to?

W.

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From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Randy Isaac
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:18 PM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] the Way Science Works/

Wendee,

    Isn't there a sense in which Gen. 1:24 and 25 strongly suggests a design
component? The verbs used do not imply ex nihilo creation but a process. I
believe the Hebrew terms for "bring forth" and "made" indicate processes
which typically have a design connotation. I wonder if the phrase "God
designed the animals" might not be closer to the actual BIblical text than
"God created the animals" though I would think both are correct when
understood in the context. The two are not exclusive. It all depends on
one's connotation of the words.

    Randy

----- Original Message -----

From: WENDEE HOLTCAMP <mailto:wholtcamp@comcast.net>

To: asa@calvin.edu

Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:58 PM

Subject: [asa] the Way Science Works/

 A 2nd grade Abeka science book begins with the text, "God designed the
animals." Design is not even the Biblical word which was "God *created* the
animals." This means that Christian educators have not only bypassed the
scientific system, but also undermined the integrity of the actual Biblical
text

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