Re: [asa] donkey and horse

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
Date: Sat Jul 07 2007 - 18:49:08 EDT

No, these do not qualify as evolving species in most YEC views.
Apparently most of the equids can be bred to produce sterile hybrids.
Mules and hinnies are well known. A zorse was recently noted. However,
there are some YECs who have more carefully calculated the capacity of
the Ark and decided that only one pair from each genus or family could
have been aboard. This requires rapid evolution of the several equid
species so that their offspring is sterile. Abraham had asses. Joseph had
horses. David had mules. Given the accepted dates, that's evolution in a
great hurry. Something similar can be argued about the felines, what with
ligers and tiglons. Arguing this point will be problematic, for the
capacity of the Ark seems to be highly flexible, depending on the
premises immediately needed.

The fact that Canis domesticus and C. lupus readily interbreed will be
treated as two names for one species, differentiating the domesticated
from the feral. C. latrans also interbreeds.

I note that YECs want great changes before they will consider something
evolving. There are, I believe, something like 800 species of fruitflies
in the Hawaiian Islands. They apparently do not interbreed naturally, the
usual mark of a good species. But Creationists KNOW that all creatures
breed after their kind, though the phrase means "of all sorts," so this
example doesn't count. You may want to consider the statement attributed
to a backwoods sage: "It ain't the things that we don't know that gets us
into trouble. It's the things we know for sure that ain't so."
Dave (ASA)

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:39:06 -0400 Dave Wallace <wdwllace@sympatico.ca>
writes:
> At times people arguing for YEC claim that no evolution is occurring
>
> today that we can observe at least except possibly for some micro
> organisms. A donkey and a horse can produce a mule which is
> sterile. I
> also think that wolves and dogs can at times interbreed. Question
> for
> those in the biological area. Are not these two examples of
> evolution
> in progress, that if the environmental pressure continues will
> ultimately likely result in two totally separate species?
>
> Dave W (CSCA)
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