Ed, I see no reason to waste my time with you. You lost my trust many years
ago.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ed babinski [mailto:ed.babinski@furman.edu]
>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:58 AM
>Glenn,
>
>Please share the Turkish translator story!
>
>I may be jumping the gun not having heard your story yet, but it seems to
>me that any story about prayer followed by a quick reply might mean:
>
>1) That someone or something overheard your plea for a Turkish translator,
>and that would be COMPATIBLE with everything you presently believe about
>the Bible and Christianity but it would not PROVE that the entire Bible
>and all of your beliefs about it are all true. I also bet that most
>devout people of many different religions have at least ONE similar story
>of a miraculous coincidence from their own lives to share. In fact, I bet
>even atheists have stories of at least one miraculous coincidence in their
>lives.
>
>2) If you and your friends prayed a second time for a particular person to
>show up (i.e., if the experiment could be repeated) it might prove it was
>not merely a coincidence. (Some of the coincidences I recall from my own
>life are ones in which I've bumped into people in New York City by
>accident that I knew personally. I once found a twenty dollar bill just
>lying on the ground. And I once guessed out of thin air, the exact suit
>and number of the playing card someone had picked from a full deck. I
>also once read about an old book I'd like to read and then went into a
>bookstore and just happened to see it for sale on a discount table. I
>have also since then run into articles on subjects or heard from others
>about subjects that I just happened to be curious about at that same
>moment. And of course, we've all probably picked up the phone and heard
>nothing on the other end of the line, until someone breaks the silence
>with, "Hey, I just phoned you, and didn't even hear it ring!" "Yeah, I was
>just phoning you too!" )
>
>3) Suppose you and your group sent out psychic vibrations and a Turkish
>translator just happened to be in the neighborhood and picked it up and
>started heading your way? That would be a combination of coincidence (he
>was in the neighborhood), and the power of your joined minds.
>
>Thanks,
>Ed
>
>
>
>"Glenn Morton" <glennmorton@entouch.net> writes:
>>Alexanian wrote:
>>
>>>I wonder if Glenn considers the following verse “some grounding in
>>fact”. ”And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you,
>>>Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but
>>My Father who is in heaven.” Matt. 16:17.
>>
>>How can I see that as a grounding in fact. What is objectively verifiable
>>in that statement? What test can I run or observe to see that it is true
>>that the father revealed something to Simon.
>>
>>What I do find grounding, at least personally is the event years ago when
>>God provided a Turkish translater in a 10 sq foot area at exactly 10
>>minutes after we had prayed at 1 A. M. for one to come to that spot in
>>Dallas, Texas. I experienced that fact. It has grounded me, but Simons
>>thing can't ground me.
>
>
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