Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)

From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2003 - 08:09:46 EDT

  • Next message: Jay Willingham: "Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)"

    A good lawyer will say why they disagree and provide evidence .

    So why do you disagree?

    I tis impossible to summarise the nonsense on the ICR and AIG websites -
    there's so much

    Michael
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jay Willingham" <jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com>
    To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:50 AM
    Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)

    > I must disagree.
    >
    > Error begets and aids error.
    >
    > "That's not my department, says Werner von Braun..." Tom Lehrer.
    >
    > Jay Willingham
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    >
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    > From: "Sarah Berel-Harrop" <sec@hal-pc.org>
    > To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
    > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 7:06 PM
    > Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
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    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Jay Willingham" <jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com>
    > > To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
    > > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:11 PM
    > > Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > > The concepts that man is the end product of gradual mutation from
    other
    > > the
    > > > primates gives enormous support to those people who think their own
    race
    > > is
    > > > superior to someone else's.
    > >
    > > 1) that is classic "naturalistic fallacy" and if I am not
    > > mistaken, someone just posted a long excerpt about
    > > the "naturalistic fallacy"
    > >
    > > 2) Who says evolution says that? Progess is an idea
    > > that is outwith evolutionary theory proper. If someone
    > > is talking about progress, that has to be coming from
    > > an external philosophical or religious stance.
    > >
    > > 3) Plenty of ideas are compatible with racism, some
    > > "creationist" and some "evolutionist". The racism
    > > comes from outside. Read in particular the forward
    > > and chapter one of the 1996 printing of _Mismeasure
    > > of Man_. Polygenism arose without the help of any
    > > ideas about evolutionary "progress", during a time
    > > when most were creationists, indeed it precedes
    > > Darwin.
    > >
    > > Racist people are racist. They will justify it with
    > > science, scripture, or whatever else they can get their
    > > hands on.
    > >
    > > In short. That's an unjustified slander that is all too often
    > > used to denigrate evolutionary theory.
    > >
    > >
    > >
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