Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)

From: Jay Willingham (jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Sat Sep 27 2003 - 19:50:35 EDT

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    I must disagree.

    Error begets and aids error.

    "That's not my department, says Werner von Braun..." Tom Lehrer.

    Jay Willingham

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    From: "Sarah Berel-Harrop" <sec@hal-pc.org>
    To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 7:06 PM
    Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)

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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Jay Willingham" <jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com>
    > To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
    > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 4:11 PM
    > Subject: Re: Darwinian and non-Darwinian (was Re: RFEP & ID)
    >
    >
    >
    > > The concepts that man is the end product of gradual mutation from other
    > the
    > > primates gives enormous support to those people who think their own race
    > is
    > > superior to someone else's.
    >
    > 1) that is classic "naturalistic fallacy" and if I am not
    > mistaken, someone just posted a long excerpt about
    > the "naturalistic fallacy"
    >
    > 2) Who says evolution says that? Progess is an idea
    > that is outwith evolutionary theory proper. If someone
    > is talking about progress, that has to be coming from
    > an external philosophical or religious stance.
    >
    > 3) Plenty of ideas are compatible with racism, some
    > "creationist" and some "evolutionist". The racism
    > comes from outside. Read in particular the forward
    > and chapter one of the 1996 printing of _Mismeasure
    > of Man_. Polygenism arose without the help of any
    > ideas about evolutionary "progress", during a time
    > when most were creationists, indeed it precedes
    > Darwin.
    >
    > Racist people are racist. They will justify it with
    > science, scripture, or whatever else they can get their
    > hands on.
    >
    > In short. That's an unjustified slander that is all too often
    > used to denigrate evolutionary theory.
    >
    >
    >
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