RE: fine tuning

From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Fri Apr 11 2003 - 12:13:23 EDT

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    BlankIt was calculated on the basis of probability. I got his books from the
    library, so I cannot confirm the exact quantities used. Basically, if
    experimentally, it takes 3 days for a particular process to occur and the
    probability of it occuring is 10^X then it should occur on average once
    every (don't know the details of his math.) He went over the experiment
    where ureas were created in the laboratory from various building blocks,
    pointing out that yes, all these building blocks had been independently
    determined to develop naturally, however not at the same time in the same
    place and not in large quantities in a pure form. And, urea is not life. He
    then went on to stack probabilities. And he analyzed the conditions and the
    order and the probabilities and the fact that there are very different
    conditions required for creating life with building blocks.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On
    Behalf Of Robert Schneider
      Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 10:28 AM
      To: Asa
      Subject: Re: fine tuning

      Debbie writes:

        There is also the biological argument from the web page. Robert Shapiro
    has several books touting the same thing. The simplest life that we know
    requires a complex series of events each of which should take millenia to
    occur. However, several of them must occur within the same sphere in a
    period of a couple of months. And, they each have different biological
    requirements in order to evolve. That first strand of DNA, or even RNA, is a
    mighty big task.

        Debbie Mann, PE
        Debbie Mann Consulting
        (765)477-1776
        Bob's query:

            On what basis does one conclude that, granting for the sake of
    argument that a complex series of events is required, it would take
    "millenia" for each to occur?


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