Moorad Alexanian wrote:
> I address the deception question to those who often say that God would not
> deceive us with appearances of a young earth.
What you said (see below) is "People who say that God would not deceive
us, for instance, with a young earth---which I do not believe in--would have to
address the issue of why God is attempting to deceive us when it comes to the
weather and evolution." & I repeat, who says that "God is attempting to deceive
us when it comes to the weather and evolution"? What does that even mean? Are
you suggesting that it would be "deceitful" for God to be involved in those
processes without leaving any "fingerprints"? That would be the case only if
one shared Philip Johnson's preconceptions about the way God works.
(& with that I should say that I also deplore any wishing of ill to Phil
Johnson & pray for his recovery. But I still find his views in this area
lamentable.)
Shalom,
George
George L. Murphy
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
"The Science-Theology Interface"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "george murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>
> To: "Moorad Alexanian" <alexanian@uncwil.edu>
> Cc: "Bill Payne" <bpayne15@juno.com>; <kbmill@ksu.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Evolution and the Image of god
>
> > Moorad Alexanian wrote:
> >
> > > I believe God can create as He pleases. I suppose that would also mean
> that
> > > God is in total control of the weather. People who say that God would
> not
> > > deceive us, for instance, with a young earth---which I do not believe
> > > in--would have to address the issue of why God is attempting to deceive
> us
> > > when it comes to the weather and evolution.
> >
> > I don't understand this at all. Who says that God is "attempting
> to
> > deceive us" about weather or evolution?
> >
> > > Scientists believe that long
> > > weather predication is impossible since one is dealing with
> deterministic
> > > chaos. It is for this reason that when it comes to studying the past I
> opt
> > > out since we really do not know how to handle that except by good
> forensic
> > > type scientific reasrarch.
> >
> > We can't expect to know the precise position and velocity of a
> given
> > star in our galaxy 5 x 10^9 years ago, but it's reasonable to think that
> > astrophysicists will be able to gain a pretty good understanding of what
> the
> > galaxy as a whole was like then. The situation is similar with biological
> > evolution. We may be able to learn what the general condition of hominids
> was
> > 10^6 years ago even though we can't learn what a specific one of my
> ancestors
> > 10^6 years ago today had for breakfast. Nobody expects or indeed wants
> detail of
> > that sort.
> >
> >
> > Shalom,
> >
> > George
> >
> > George L. Murphy
> > http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
> > "The Science-Theology Interface"
> >
> >
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