Re: Was Copernicus. Sun stood still

From: Guy Blanchet (guyblanchet@sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri Aug 10 2001 - 05:01:52 EDT

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    Mr. Roberts,

    The style of litterature in the book of Jonah lends itself to take the 'fish
    story' literally.

    Regards

    Michael Roberts a écrit:

    > This is not logical at all. If God created all things then God could make a
    > Virgin pregnant, the sun stand still and a fish swallow Jonah. But it does
    > not follow as of logic that he did. We need to be sure that the style of
    > literature expects us to take it as a miracle. It does for Mary, not
    > necessarily for the sun and Jonah is not a historical book - or at least in
    > the Jewish canon. Remember that in biblical times there was no real concept
    > of science and a "miracle" is a particular act of God and has no reference
    > to breaking of scientific law - the usual and wrong definition of a
    > miracle.
    >
    > Michael
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Guy Blanchet" <guyblanchet@sympatico.ca>
    > To: <Samuel.D.Olsen@rf.no>
    > Cc: "Ted Davis" <tdavis@messiah.edu>; <asa@calvin.edu>
    > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:23 AM
    > Subject: Re: Was Copernicus. Sun stood still
    >
    > Mr. Olsen,
    >
    > It's a question of basic logic. You say you believe in most parts of the
    > Bible. Do you
    > believe the first lines saying : "In the beginning God created the heavens
    > and the earth." ?
    > If you believe that, then logically, can you doubt that that same God can
    > make the sun that
    > he created stand still? And likewise, can he create a large fish to carry a
    > man and release
    > him after three days?
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Samuel.D.Olsen@rf.no a écrit:
    >
    > > Ted,
    > >
    > > I can accept most of the reported miracles in the Old Testament as
    > > authentic reports. However, this supposed account of the sun standing
    > still
    > > is a real problem to me. How do you explain this story and that of Jonah,
    > > Ted? I want to maintain the belief that the Bible is the inspired Word of
    > > God. But this accout seems beyond credibility to me.
    > >
    > > Sam
    > >
    > >
    > > "Ted Davis"
    > > <tdavis@messiah.e To: <asa@calvin.edu>
    > > du> cc:
    > > Sent by: Subject: Who was bothered
    > by Copernicus?
    > > asa-owner@udomo5.
    > > calvin.edu
    > >
    > >
    > > 07.08.01 19:53
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Those bothered by the apparent contradiction between Copernicanism and the
    > > literal sense of several verses of the Bible (more than a dozen, but e.g.
    > > Joshua chapter 10 and Eccles 1:5) include Martin Luther (George will
    > > properly tell us that his comment was impersonal, off-the-cuff, and
    > > unofficial--but then so were a lot of the things Luther said), Cardinal
    > > Bellarmino, and Tycho Brahe. The list could be a lot longer, but these
    > > three illustrate the point well enough.
    > >
    > > Ted Davis



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