Re: Pi

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. (dfsiemensjr@juno.com)
Date: Sun Jul 29 2001 - 22:50:18 EDT

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    Burgy,
    Of course pi is not random at all. It is absolutely determined. But the
    sequence of integers to any base passes all known tests for randomness.
    Indeed, if a repeating decimal or other evident structure should appear,
    the number would not be transcendental. The conclusion is that all
    possible sequences of integers will be found if the computation is
    carried far enough. From something that George noted, this must be true
    of all transcendental numbers. But, so far as I know, only the decimal
    value of pi has been calculated to ridiculous lengths. But someone may
    have fooled around with e, the next best known, and I probably would not
    have heard.

    When I first encountered references to the nature of pi, a statement
    which must be either true or false, but which was not empirically known
    at the time, was 'There is a sequence of 3 3's in the decimal value of
    pi.' This was upped to 5 5's and 7 7's that I heard about. But I have no
    published evidence where the situation currently stands, though one
    should find 9 9's somewhere within about a billion integers. Finding the
    binary code for even a short program will likely take many more places. I
    know I'm not going to look for Windows' code in pi.
    Dave

    On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:05:20 -0600 John W Burgeson <burgytwo@juno.com>
    writes:
    > BTW, I think that pi is not really random. It just looks that way.
    > So
    > perhaps Microsoft's OS is really not in there after all, much less a
    > description of you or me.
    >
    > John Burgeson (Burgy)
    >
    > www.burgy.50megs.com
    > (science/theology, quantum mechanics, baseball, ethics,
    > humor, cars, God's intervention into natural causation,
    > etc.)



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