The laws of gravity do not move planets. The laws of gravity cannot create
neither motion nor planets. The Newtonian gravitational law mimics the
actions of God. It is the created and sustained being, man, that devices the
laws that describe the created and sustained regularity of nature. I suppose
the laws of nature can always be superseded by God in a way that would be
contrary to our notions and conception of nature. But in either case God
must be there otherwise there in nothingness. Moorad
-----Original Message-----
From: glenn morton <glenn.morton@btinternet.com>
To: Moorad Alexanian <alexanian@uncwil.edu>; Howard J. Van Till
<hvantill@novagate.com>; RDehaan237@aol.com <RDehaan237@aol.com>;
hayworth@uic.edu <hayworth@uic.edu>; asa@calvin.edu <asa@calvin.edu>
Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Meaning of "fine-tuning"
>>
>> The view of Van Till always smelled to me like deism and I still feel
that
>> way. The biblical statement that God sustains the creation means
>> that in a
>> sense God creates the universe every instant of time. That is to say, God
>> cannot "go away" since if He did that, then the creation would go off in
a
>> puff. The universe derives its being from God and is not self-existing.
>> Moorad
>
>Moorad, The problem with your statement is that NO christian who believes
in
>the resurrection can possibly be a deist and I know Howard believes in the
>resurrection. Is it deistic to believe that God uses the laws of gravity
to
>move the planets? Or in order to avoid the deism charge do we have to have
>God invisibly push the planets with his finger (always according to
Newton's
>or Einstein's precepts) so that he can be there to cause their movement? I
>would hope that God could create a universe that had some abilities to do
>things on its own as that would reflect the product of a capable creator.
>
>glenn
>
>see http://www.flash.net/~mortongr/dmd.htm
>for lots of creation/evolution information
>>
>
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